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I know ST is a non pilot cubical dweller directed to come on here and spread management untruths, is it possible you are as well? Maybe you two are in reality the same person with different profile accounts? Won’t be long and I’ll have you figured out. The likelihood that you are an ex-line pilot that spends his days in a management cubicle is growing stronger and stronger.
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I know ST is a non pilot cubical dweller directed to come on here and spread management untruths, is it possible you are as well? Maybe you two are in reality the same person with different profile accounts? Won’t be long and I’ll have you figured out. The likelihood that you are an ex-line pilot that spends his days in a management cubicle is growing stronger and stronger.
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JL is a management lackey who will show up to pilot functions, gather info, and then feed it to management. He thinks his work is going to land him a real management position one day, but the sad reality is, that they are using him which is why he will never be anything beyond an SDP. He is hated by upper management as much as he is hated by the pilot group. Really sad place to be considering he has another 20+ years there.
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Yup. The sad reality is the only person who hasn’t figured out what a weak piece of scum JL is, is JL himself. He’s hiding over here now under his alias Zebra for good reason.
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I wonder if they delivered the news using ponies and balloons...
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And when your lynch party turns enough people off.
What then? “I told you so” won’t pay the bills either.
Luthi said he needed October. Many of us did.
Attrition will continue to drive the most leverage I’ve seen in this contract debate.
Y’all need to realize that they are covering the schedule with Selloffs and 70% aircraft availability months out. The VEDs and VAWDs are there for added reliability but they could eliminate them tomorrow.
Question: What happens when corporate eliminates an expense like VEDs and VAWDs from pilots who won’t take them? They get a bonus.
So, to be clear, you’re advocating the Bobo and AJ get a bonus by eliminating VAWDs and VEDs by saving money? Conversely, if pilots take VAWDs and VEDs and save Selloff money, Bobo and AJ get a bonus by saving Selloff money.
They get a bonus either way. And you’re mad at pilots…. Got it.
Basically, you’re screaming from a Part 121 bargaining playbook and it’s painful to watch. I get it. “We’re at war” is what I’ve heard from several in leadership.
Stop fighting like the British red coats is what I’d ask.
Generate some real leverage and do the job better.
What then? “I told you so” won’t pay the bills either.
Luthi said he needed October. Many of us did.
Attrition will continue to drive the most leverage I’ve seen in this contract debate.
Y’all need to realize that they are covering the schedule with Selloffs and 70% aircraft availability months out. The VEDs and VAWDs are there for added reliability but they could eliminate them tomorrow.
Question: What happens when corporate eliminates an expense like VEDs and VAWDs from pilots who won’t take them? They get a bonus.
So, to be clear, you’re advocating the Bobo and AJ get a bonus by eliminating VAWDs and VEDs by saving money? Conversely, if pilots take VAWDs and VEDs and save Selloff money, Bobo and AJ get a bonus by saving Selloff money.
They get a bonus either way. And you’re mad at pilots…. Got it.
Basically, you’re screaming from a Part 121 bargaining playbook and it’s painful to watch. I get it. “We’re at war” is what I’ve heard from several in leadership.
Stop fighting like the British red coats is what I’d ask.
Generate some real leverage and do the job better.
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what else do you expect from a guy with a new $1m Home in Denver and is noted to death. Paycheck to paycheck has to suck making $500k a year. Wonder if the wife is banging the pool boy or is just glad to have him out of the house. Either way, she wins. Carry on JL. Hopefully the staff at the home your family puts you in gives you 4 days a month of personal time.
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The reason why we know sell offs are undesirable, is b/c Allen Bobo told us they were undesirable.
Owners don’t like them and complain. The fees are crazy expensive for the company as well. It definitely makes cuts when the company is forced to sell-off a trip.
Therefore, more sell-offs equals more pain. Picking up days helps the company cover trips thereby decreasing sell-offs.
John (Zebra) says it’s a 121 tactic that doesn’t work… then why did the 121 carriers sue to stop the practice? B/c it works.
Not participating in VEDs/VAWDs is just one way, out of a thousand, to give leverage to the union. We need all the leverage we can get.
Owners don’t like them and complain. The fees are crazy expensive for the company as well. It definitely makes cuts when the company is forced to sell-off a trip.
Therefore, more sell-offs equals more pain. Picking up days helps the company cover trips thereby decreasing sell-offs.
John (Zebra) says it’s a 121 tactic that doesn’t work… then why did the 121 carriers sue to stop the practice? B/c it works.
Not participating in VEDs/VAWDs is just one way, out of a thousand, to give leverage to the union. We need all the leverage we can get.
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But keep following and saying all hail Pedro in your sleep. Right into the buzz saw. You need new leadership. The tyrants political and personal stunt has ended in disgrace. If he was a true leader, instead of the troop rally cry colonel he so keenly enjoys being, he'd resign and let the new leadership take over. His ill-advised section 6 tactics clearly havn't and won't work during an IBB.
Anyone who has ever met or talked to Pedro would say that Pedro is nothing like a “tyrant”. Saying he is, is laughable.
I’m not sure you are a pilot at NJ, but if you are, a quick phone call to the “tyrant” himself about your ideas and concerns would go a long way in helping you understand the man and his drive to help the pilots.
Leaders will always have people who disagree with them. Pedro is someone you can actually talk to about your disagreements. He encourages it. Maybe he learns something. Maybe you will too.
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