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Swedepilut 05-16-2024 04:20 AM


Originally Posted by hammerhead (Post 3802855)
It appears they're changing the IOE footprint to cut the wait times

They are tailoring it to better match the students experience and use some of the planes for that in the phenom fleet.

jtf560 05-16-2024 05:41 AM


Originally Posted by Swedepilut (Post 3802866)
They are tailoring it to better match the students experience and use some of the planes for that in the phenom fleet.

Do you believe that the company is truly going to provide better training, or are they just going to get a bunch of new hires familiar with the airplane by doing a bunch of landings in the broken birds that need parts for the air conditioning to work properly and then throw them to the line for the regular line pilots to teach all the non flying parts of the job that they are supposed to learn with a training pilot on IOE? I would like to believe that the company is going to do this as a pre IOE followed by a real, standardized IOE, but I have a hard time believing that the same management that made the training mess is going to do the right thing to fix the mess and improve the training for the new hires.

Swedepilut 05-19-2024 08:31 AM


Originally Posted by jtf560 (Post 3802880)
Do you believe that the company is truly going to provide better training, or are they just going to get a bunch of new hires familiar with the airplane by doing a bunch of landings in the broken birds that need parts for the air conditioning to work properly and then throw them to the line for the regular line pilots to teach all the non flying parts of the job that they are supposed to learn with a training pilot on IOE? I would like to believe that the company is going to do this as a pre IOE followed by a real, standardized IOE, but I have a hard time believing that the same management that made the training mess is going to do the right thing to fix the mess and improve the training for the new hires.

Well if you read every union email the company is crumbling around us.

Which is a weird flex but then again it is election time.

I think the company has more than enough data on what they need to get a pilot from 1500 hours to be competent in the right seat and the brightwork in the back.

jtf560 05-20-2024 06:20 PM


Originally Posted by Swedepilut (Post 3803939)
Well if you read every union email the company is crumbling around us.

Which is a weird flex but then again it is election time.

I think the company has more than enough data on what they need to get a pilot from 1500 hours to be competent in the right seat and the brightwork in the back.

If they kick all the bright work in the back to the line captains after signing them off after a bunch of landings in the broken birds, then the data is flawed whether the pilots have 1500 hours or 10000 hours. I don't believe it has happened, but I won't be surprised if it does. I'm hoping the union putting up a stink is enough for the company to do the right thing. I certainly don't trust management to do the right thing without being pushed into it.

LFPilot 05-27-2024 12:10 PM

What were the class drops from May 13th?

Cdiver1 05-28-2024 10:17 AM


Originally Posted by LFPilot (Post 3806083)
What were the class drops from May 13th?

I heard from a guy in my interview pod that the whole class got the Latitude and some of them have training dates as soon as 6/1. Maybe that indicates that the indoc-ioe timeline will shorten up, but I have no knowledge of that.

CaptHook 07-12-2024 09:35 AM

I have my phone interview on August 19th. How long is it taking from the phone call until a class date if I pass?

Cg25 07-12-2024 09:48 AM

Is it really true that if you don’t get the invite on the phone interview, that means you’re not getting invited out? Just had my phone interview recently and was told I’ll hear back in a couple days. I’ve talked to others that got the invite to Columbus a couple days after their interview, thanks all!

JustBoeing 07-12-2024 01:52 PM


Originally Posted by Cg25 (Post 3819434)
Is it really true that if you don’t get the invite on the phone interview, that means you’re not getting invited out? Just had my phone interview recently and was told I’ll hear back in a couple days. I’ve talked to others that got the invite to Columbus a couple days after their interview, thanks all!

Not true at all. After my phone interview it took 7 days to hear back.

Bulldog08 07-15-2024 03:52 AM


Originally Posted by CaptHook (Post 3819429)
I have my phone interview on August 19th. How long is it taking from the phone call until a class date if I pass?

I had my phone interview on June 13th, went to Columbus on June 25th, job offer July 1, and start class July 22.


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