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Old 01-10-2017 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Nachomamma
You will look back on this as being a very good thing. You would have been stuck here in a miserable, career killing dead end job forever had you been hired. Congrats!
Originally Posted by Nachomamma
Oh I see...one or two leave and all of sudden this is a great resume builder? Wow...stretch the truth much? Be careful trying so hard to convince yourself that your'e really happy here - you're gonna pull something (and no, nobody here believes your little hippie charade anyway). The rest of us have realistic standards. Grow up new guy.
Damn girl !!
Why so negative all the time?
If you are really as unhappy here as you say all the time ,why don't you find another gig?
Everybody is hiring ,nothing holding you back.
Why waste your time and career trying to change Netjets.
Go somewhere you would feel appreciated.
Life is too short .
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Old 01-10-2017 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Heywood2
Damn girl !!
Why so negative all the time?
If you are really as unhappy here as you say all the time ,why don't you find another gig?
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This isn't about me being or happy (or unhappy). This is about getting the correct information out there to perspective new hires so that they know what they're really signing up for. There really isn't a good reason for any self-respecting pilot (unless you have some sort of criminal/DUI/violation history) to apply to work here, despite the rhetoric to the contrary.

If however, you do have some sort of severe blemish preventing you from getting a real job, then welcome to Underachiever Central! You'll fit right in.
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Old 01-10-2017 | 01:25 PM
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I'm sorry you are so unhappy, and I'm not being snarky, or facetious, seriously I hope you find a place that makes you happy.
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Old 01-10-2017 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Nachomamma
This isn't about me being or happy (or unhappy). This is about getting the correct information out there to perspective new hires so that they know what they're really signing up for. There really isn't a good reason for any self-respecting pilot (unless you have some sort of criminal/DUI/violation history) to apply to work here, despite the rhetoric to the contrary.

If however, you do have some sort of severe blemish preventing you from getting a real job, then welcome to Underachiever Central! You'll fit right in.
You still didn't answer the question.
If it sucks so bad at netjets,why are you still here?
Everybody is hiring.
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Old 01-10-2017 | 02:10 PM
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I will badmouth Netjets as much as anyone alive.

That being said, when it comes to limiting or helping with getting a job at the majors, it cuts both ways if you are someone looking to come to Netjets as a stepping stone:
NJA hurts you in that non-121 is looked down upon.
NJA hurts you in that you'll not get any PIC time.
NJA hurts you in that the type rating you get does nothing to enhance your resume.
NJA hurts you in that you log less time here than at a regional/national airline.

NJA helps you in that you will have diverse flight experience.
NJA helps you in that you (should) get excellent customer service experience.
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Old 01-10-2017 | 03:22 PM
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[QUOTE=BuckeyeFO;2278557]I will badmouth Netjets as much as anyone alive.


Why?
This is not the military,anybody who doesn't want to work at netjets is free to put out resumes and leave. Everyone I know that has applied at the legacy carriers has been getting invites for interviews.
Delta is hiring 1200 guys in the next year,UPS is hiring 300 next year.
All of the big carriers are hiring similar numbers.
Quit *****in and move on....
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Old 01-10-2017 | 04:16 PM
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[QUOTE=Heywood2;2278601]
Originally Posted by BuckeyeFO
I will badmouth Netjets as much as anyone alive.


Why?
This is not the military,anybody who doesn't want to work at netjets is free to put out resumes and leave. Everyone I know that has applied at the legacy carriers has been getting invites for interviews.
Delta is hiring 1200 guys in the next year,UPS is hiring 300 next year.
All of the big carriers are hiring similar numbers.
Quit *****in and move on....
Already gave my notice and heading to SWA, so why don't you $TFU.

I gave a fair assessment on the pluses and minuses of the impact Netjets will have on your career moving forward. Your anecdotal evidence of "everyone" you know getting legacy interviews means absolutely jack squat since we don't know what other experience they have.

Maybe I want people who are thinking about coming here to know as much about their future prospects as possible. If you think that I mischaracterized the points presented, why don't you respond to that?

My comment about badmouthing Netjets is in regards to actually working there. No rose-colored glasses from me, nor the need to defend my job and career choices like so many on this board and especially the Union MB.

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Old 01-10-2017 | 04:34 PM
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[QUOTE=BuckeyeFO;2278646]
Originally Posted by Heywood2

Already gave my notice and heading to SWA, so why don't you $TFU.

I gave a fair assessment on the pluses and minuses of the impact Netjets will have on your career moving forward. Your anecdotal evidence of "everyone" you know getting legacy interviews means absolutely jack squat since we don't know what other experience they have.

Maybe I want people who are thinking about coming here to know as much about their future prospects as possible. If you think that I mischaracterized the points presented, why don't you respond to that?

My comment about badmouthing Netjets is in regards to actually working there. No rose-colored glasses from me, nor the need to defend my job and career choices like so many on this board and especially the Union MB.
Congrats!!!!! Your points were right on, and are echoed by the majority of FOs here. My entire class is on the first ticket out.

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Old 01-10-2017 | 04:57 PM
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[QUOTE=Jetlife;2278657]
Originally Posted by BuckeyeFO

F&%k yea!!! Good for you!!! Don't take the lifer lice personally. They had jacked up careers and are mad because they aren't at a legacy, so the second you make any suggestion to make things better, they take it personal. NetJets is the land of disenfranchised misfits who worked for garbage commuters 15 years ago, so they think that gives them leverage to comment on the modern airline industry and compare it to NetJets. Your chances of leaving NetJets and wanting to come back are just about zero lol.

I will add that your points were right on, and are echoed by the majority of FOs here. My entire class is on the first ticket out.
I hope you are able to get out. I spent too long here hoping for a good contract and was absolutely shocked at what we SETTLED for.

As for a lot of the captains. People came here when they were furloughed or the industry was in the post 9/11 swoon or shoddy 134.5 outfits. No one leaves a legacy to come work for Netjets. I don't think we even have a single pilot from Spirit, Allegiant, or even Frontier.

Netjets took a lot of people who were down on their luck and made them comfortable with Home-basing and just enough money (if you are a captain or senior FO) to not leave. And now that they've been captains for 15 years they act like their S doesn't stink and that we should just suck it up and be FOs for 20 years because "it's all about timing" or if we don't like it "we should just leave".

When it comes to this thread and people who are applying for a job at Netjets, the opinion of a captain or even a returned furloughee doesn't matter bc they haven't been in the position of the new hires recently enough to have any sort of idea of what they are getting into. The only group that should be speaking for what NJA will be like for applicants are the post-furlough new hires. And we are dying to leave and ecstatic to get out.

And to be fair, a lot of captains at SWA are very similar in the sense that pre 9/11, if you went to Southwest it was one of those "why, do you have a DUI or something?" for a good number of pilots. But now they all act like it was their incredible foresight that steered them to SWA and their S doesn't stink either.
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Old 01-10-2017 | 05:10 PM
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[QUOTE=BuckeyeFO;2278646]
Originally Posted by Heywood2

Already gave my notice and heading to SWA, so why don't you $TFU.

I gave a fair assessment on the pluses and minuses of the impact Netjets will have on your career moving forward. Your anecdotal evidence of "everyone" you know getting legacy interviews means absolutely jack squat since we don't know what other experience they have.

Maybe I want people who are thinking about coming here to know as much about their future prospects as possible. If you think that I mischaracterized the points presented, why don't you respond to that?

My comment about badmouthing Netjets is in regards to actually working there. No rose-colored glasses from me, nor the need to defend my job and career choices like so many on this board and especially the Union MB.
The grass is always greener somewhere else,problem is you'll be taking the same attitude to your next job..And you'll be a whiners over there too.
Bye
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