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nancy33 03-08-2013 12:15 PM

Silver Airways
 
"Student pilot request touch and goes at ORD, to learn tower operations"

flightmedic01 03-08-2013 12:40 PM

LNS (Lancaster, PA) is a non-federal tower. How does the FAA shut them down?!?

Cruz5350 03-08-2013 01:11 PM

Silver Airways
 
Most of those towers I believe are contract towers.

v1valarob 03-08-2013 01:51 PM


Originally Posted by joethepilot (Post 1367566)
How the sequester affects you:

From: http://www.faa.gov/news/updates/medi..._Be_Closed.pdf

Here are the towers in our system that will be closing:

IAD System:
CKB
LWB

ATL System:
GLH
TUP
MEI
LWB

CLE System:
PKB

Montana System:
None
It should be noted that the only control tower in the Montana system was BIL

Florida System:
None

In other words, pretty much all of our outstations that had towers will no longer. A notable exception is MGW, which is not on the list.

Who cares? UNV, AOO, BKW, SHD, JHW, BFD are all places we flew to at Colgan without towers.

CKB and HPN had limited hours. I remember going into HPN being #4 after 11pm and you had to just figure it out. CKB we used to depart prior to the tower opening which was a pain in the ass.

Some guys would have no issue just blasting off VFR in the Saab and getting the clearance in the air.

MIADC8 03-08-2013 06:32 PM

Voice mail from silver today for class on the 25th of March but they didnt say which aircraft it is for. When I spoke to HR before my interview 4 weeks ago they said they were hiring into the Saab, but when I interviewed I was offered the B1900. I turned down the job and the next day HR called me and asked if I would be interested if a Saab position opened and I said yes. just wondering if anyone has any info on whats going on at silver.

Cruz5350 03-08-2013 06:36 PM

I'm going to PM you

ctab5060X 03-09-2013 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by v1valarob (Post 1367859)
Who cares? UNV, AOO, BKW, SHD, JHW, BFD are all places we flew to at Colgan without towers.

CKB and HPN had limited hours. I remember going into HPN being #4 after 11pm and you had to just figure it out. CKB we used to depart prior to the tower opening which was a pain in the ass.

Some guys would have no issue just blasting off VFR in the Saab and getting the clearance in the air.

Yeah, that would be nice. Too bad we can't do that per our ops specs...

Some of the locations will be okay without towers. Some are going to be a royal pain in the butt. TUP comes to mind with all the T-6s coming up there and tying up the approaches in a non-radar environment.

Cruz5350 03-09-2013 07:49 PM

Silver Airways
 
Who says you can't take off VFR and get a clearance in the air? I've done it plenty of times heck that's the only way in the Bahamas pretty much.....

Bassman1985 03-09-2013 08:23 PM


Originally Posted by Cruz5350 (Post 1368724)
Who says you can't take off VFR and get a clearance in the air? I've done it plenty of times heck that's the only way in the Bahamas pretty much.....

Yeah, the islands is the only place we do that. All the time in the CLE system it was clearance on the ground before departure, usually at the hold short line. Even in severe clear conditions. Looks like the IAD and ATL systems will largely revert to that.

Cruz5350 03-09-2013 09:02 PM


Originally Posted by Bassman1985 (Post 1368741)
Yeah, the islands is the only place we do that. All the time in the CLE system it was clearance on the ground before departure, usually at the hold short line. Even in severe clear conditions. Looks like the IAD and ATL systems will largely revert to that.

I've done it at our non towered out stations in the ATL systems many a times. It's legal both per the FAR's and company op specs and much faster than waiting around on the phone, GCO, or through the crappy ground freqs for approach and center. Same thing up north in CLE heck most of the time that was the fastest and easiest way to make CRP up there.


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