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Originally Posted by Cruz5350
(Post 1368746)
I've done it at our non towered out stations in the ATL systems many a times. It's legal both per the FAR's and company op specs and much faster than waiting around on the phone, GCO, or through the crappy ground freqs for approach and center. Same thing up north in CLE heck most of the time that was the fastest and easiest way to make CRP up there.
Just because it is legal per the FARs, if company ops specs are more restrictive, they take precedence. The company has made it clear that the only time we can depart VFR and pick up our IFR in the air is when departing from the Bahamas. So, who cares if it is faster. If it takes 20 minutes to get a clearance, oh well... Besides... I've had more problems getting a clearance coming out of the Bahamas than I have using an GCO or calling the FSS. |
Originally Posted by Cruz5350
(Post 1368746)
I've done it at our non towered out stations in the ATL systems many a times. It's legal both per the FAR's and company op specs and much faster than waiting around on the phone, GCO, or through the crappy ground freqs for approach and center. Same thing up north in CLE heck most of the time that was the fastest and easiest way to make CRP up there.
Besides...we gettin' paid by the minute dawg! Might as well be safe and thorough by the minute as well.
Originally Posted by ctab5060X
(Post 1368990)
Besides... I've had more problems getting a clearance coming out of the Bahamas than I have using an GCO or calling the FSS.
That long climb before anyone calls you back is the longest 5 minutes ever. Also Y U NO respond to my texts dawg? :p |
Silver Airways
The recent ops bulletin does not address departures under vfr only arrivals. In PIB this is an issue at times getting a clearance departing to the South. It's a non event getting it in the air I've done it with check airman but you all can do whatever you want.
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Originally Posted by Cruz5350
(Post 1369069)
The recent ops bulletin does not address departures under vfr only arrivals. In PIB this is an issue at times getting a clearance departing to the South. It's a non event getting it in the air I've done it with check airman but you all can do whatever you want.
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Silver Airways
Good luck picking it up on the north side of the airport it's the same as HOU not working either but if you wana burn 5 min waiting that's cool too.
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Worked fine the couple of times we got our clearance sitting just short of 18. And I don't mind burning 5 minutes. :)
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Cruz5350
Try the upper antenna......:eek: GF |
Silver Airways
Ya we use the upper antenna it's really an airport position that causes the issue along with some radios being better than others.
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Originally Posted by Cruz5350
(Post 1369069)
The recent ops bulletin does not address departures under vfr only arrivals. In PIB this is an issue at times getting a clearance departing to the South. It's a non event getting it in the air I've done it with check airman but you all can do whatever you want.
Originally Posted by Cruz5350
(Post 1369117)
Good luck picking it up on the north side of the airport it's the same as HOU not working either but if you wana burn 5 min waiting that's cool too.
Originally Posted by Cruz5350
(Post 1369155)
Ya we use the upper antenna it's really an airport position that causes the issue along with some radios being better than others.
Pro tip: It is better to be thought a fool than open one's mouth and remove all doubt ;) |
Silver Airways
I'd have to care what others thought of me first....
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