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Old 01-17-2012, 04:09 AM
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Originally Posted by sandrich View Post
After hired, you are on a 12 month probationary period. For that 12 months, they can release you for no reason, you have no union protection (you still pay union dues. It is a closed shop, so the option to join union is up to you, but you pay dues regardless), and you have no severance package. However, this has never happened. For every Saab that comes on the line, they need 12 pilots...so to ge fired, you really need to screw something up.
Thanks Sandrich!
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Old 01-17-2012, 05:42 AM
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ha ha... I was waiting for this Cruz, I knew this post was going to happen

Hey Man don't get frustrated, keep working on those profiles, profiles, profiles. Keep working on those memory items as well. Sit across a wall and trow a ball with each hand while citing the profiles. Spend your entire day working on those profiles. We have all been there, it takes a bit to get used to it. I had 1300 TT when I went into the ATR sim and I got my @$$ kicked the first few lessons but once I got the hang of flying the airplane and dealing with the profiles, memory items, checklist and dealing with scenarios it was actually a blast when we started doing V1 cuts and single engine go arounds.
It was funny because you could ask me any of the profiles or memory items and I would be able to recite them back pretty decent. Throw me in the sim for instance and give me a GPWS warning in IMC then an engine failure on the climbout and then as soon as were done with that an engine fire. I think when the engine fire came I was like what the heck out loud. Probably quite comical for somebody to watch all the hands going everywhere the pure panic of 2 newbs trying to recite memory items run a QRH. When we broke out of the clouds to land engine out I let out a small sigh of relief then realized I'm 6000ft high how do I get this darn thing down. My legs were shaking when I stepped out of sim. Looking back maybe it was fun but I was done afterwards and ready for bed.
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Old 01-17-2012, 05:44 AM
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....and there it is, Cruz's daily pessimistic post.
You sure do act like you know it all already and you're only in day one of class.
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Old 01-17-2012, 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik View Post
First time in the sim is rough. Previous poster was right just hit the profiles and memory items. It may seem like it will never happen. It has a funny way of all coming together for the last couple of sims.
That was what the instructor said just hit those profiles and memory items and trim the unnecessary talk out. After day 1 it feels impossible hopefully it will be better tonight.
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Old 01-17-2012, 06:16 AM
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Anybody know how many was in the new class that started yesterday i believe ????
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Old 01-17-2012, 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Cruz5350 View Post
It was funny because you could ask me any of the profiles or memory items and I would be able to recite them back pretty decent. Throw me in the sim for instance and give me a GPWS warning in IMC then an engine failure on the climbout and then as soon as were done with that an engine fire. I think when the engine fire came I was like what the heck out loud. Probably quite comical for somebody to watch all the hands going everywhere the pure panic of 2 newbs trying to recite memory items run a QRH. When we broke out of the clouds to land engine out I let out a small sigh of relief then realized I'm 6000ft high how do I get this darn thing down. My legs were shaking when I stepped out of sim. Looking back maybe it was fun but I was done afterwards and ready for bed.
And now you are finding out why people are arguing on the other thread about T-Props VS Jets. The jets are designed to be easier to deal with in these situations, less memory items, easier profiles. For example in the CRJ 700 there are less things to memorize for all the memory items than for flaps unlock on the ATR.

And how to bring it down, well bring the power lever back to FI (you won't blow a cylinder head I promise or shock cool the engine) and bring the Condition lever (or whatever it's called on the 1900) forward and use the speed brakes!!!
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Old 01-17-2012, 07:14 AM
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The biggest surprise was the amount of yaw on the engine failure. The other eye opener was the amount of drag from an unfeathered prop. I knew it would be significant, but I just didn't expect it to be so much; it's unlike any piston twin I've flown!
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Old 01-17-2012, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Cruz5350 View Post
All I'm going to say is the sim is extraordinarily tough.
Cool story bro.
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Old 01-17-2012, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Cruz5350 View Post
...I'm 6000ft high how do I get this darn thing down...
Props up - throttles back - gear and flaps all out. Not doing it? Slip it.

Unless it's banned in the AFM (it's not in the Dash, and I've done it once in an empty plane).
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Old 01-17-2012, 10:54 AM
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If here anyone that have this book? Aviation Solutions -- b1900.com -- Home Page

They have the manual for 1900C and 1900D. Written and edited by 1900D captains, instructors, and check airmen. (Is ideal for those who don't have yet any turbine experience.)
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