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07-30-2013 | 01:37 PM
#3851
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From: I'm Buying
As I recall about seven months ago while I was still flying for Silver, I stated that soon many FOs will be leaving for bigger and better, and the Street Captains will be displaced to the right seat, no one listened. I also stated that no street hire captain will stay at Silver as a First Officer because if they have to fly from that seat, just as the FOs that are leaving, can be flying a Jet at a regional in the right seat. I guess no one listened, all these Captains were waiting to get that 1,000 hours of PIC and "I am going to a Major!". How many have left to the majors? 5-10? Well what about the classes from January 2012 to August 2012 lets say 10 captains per class 80? Well now what. Reality hit and guys it's time to face reality and get you a seniority number somewhere else until that Major calls you, because guess what it's not going to the quality of life commuting to these out stations because guess what they can not even hold a first officer seat in FLL or TPA once this staffing bid goes thru. I don't blame any of you but Silver because they did it to themselves; lets grow fast, hire as much as we can and then we will fix the problem when it gets there... They just didn't foresee the outcome of the ATP law and some 20 FOs that won't make the hours before the date. Thank you for listening Good luck silver!
07-30-2013 | 02:30 PM
#3854
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From: E-175 CA
I pulled the trigger on AirlineApps yesterday. Already got an invite to interview from Trans States. Wonder what this next month will bring...
07-30-2013 | 04:29 PM
#3856
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From: Lovin' life at .4 (ish) mach
I only got the email from MM replying to him and everyone else with a copy of his email. Seems to me that MM was the one that accidentally replied to everyone with his email that was not intended to be public. Anyone get an actual reply from him?
Besides, my emails to payroll make his look tame by comparison.
Besides, my emails to payroll make his look tame by comparison.
I think many people are unhappy with the SSB, I was looking around, and surprise surprise, someone jr to me got awarded something that was in the top of my bid.
I'm looking to leave, have a very nice prospect if it will work out. I think Silver will have to hire in the same manner as before to fill the exodus that will soon happen. Just hope they learn from history of what not to do.
07-30-2013 | 04:40 PM
#3857
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Food for thought: My understanding is that this wasn't a systemwide reset, just a shuffle. It really only effects the BIL pilots, or anyone who is displaced. To anyone else, its nothing more than a pref bid... If an FO was awarded CA on the staffing bid, it's a placeholder, but aren't upgrades (supposed to be) awarded based on seniority? So if enough vacancies are made (attrition/new flying) to create upgrade classes, such classes would be awarded based on seniority from the top down, and those candidates would then bid for open vacancies/base through a pref bid (regardless of SSB award). My point- this staffing bid is useless.
07-30-2013 | 04:47 PM
#3858
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What some don't realize is that if a billings guy displaces a guy that displaces a guy, that person now has displacement rights. Lets say there are no vacancies in a base for someone to upgrade, that displaced pilot can use displacement rights into a base where he can hold, therefore getting captain before someone more senior that could only get it with a vacancy.
07-30-2013 | 05:14 PM
#3859
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Joined: Mar 2008
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From: FAA 'Flight Check'
They will start out with how happy they are to have been given a chance at P121 flying, followed quickly by how this isn't the **old** Silver any longer, followed in time by 'I can't believe the company would treat me this way', etc....
Sing along with me:
"And the wheel goes round and around, round and round, round and round,...."
Be sure and come back on the thread after you've moved along to other opportunities and share your hard found wisdom with those new entrants into the game in a year or more. You'll be shaking your head at the wonderment of it all too when you find it hard to budge past the starry eyes!
07-30-2013 | 06:03 PM
#3860
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