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GearOperator 08-06-2013 07:30 PM

Pretty quiet here. What gives? Is this good? Or bad?

200Driver 08-06-2013 10:23 PM


Originally Posted by GearOperator (Post 1458427)
Pretty quiet here. What gives? Is this good? Or bad?

Staffing bid is irrelevant (won't ever be implemented), no growth, rumor is VPA is pulling out (shocker :rolleyes:)...

all I ever wanted was my BE1900 CA seat, damn...:eek: ...

Out the rest of the week at interviews...:D

Anyone else?

inrange 08-07-2013 05:53 PM

Yup same out on interviews ready to leave

mexipilot84 08-07-2013 07:03 PM


Originally Posted by inrange (Post 1458798)
Yup same out on interviews ready to leave


12 days and a wake up! my favorite quote today from scheduling from one of my buddies.


"OMG you're not calling to quit too are you?"

Cruz5350 08-07-2013 07:18 PM

Does anyone know how many are leaving this month? My best guess is 3-4.

Bassman1985 08-07-2013 07:33 PM


Originally Posted by Cruz5350 (Post 1458840)
Does anyone know how many are leaving this month? My best guess is 3-4.

I heard 8 in the last week. This from a LCA friend of mine I ran into today who was flying right seat because of staffing.

Salukipilot4590 08-07-2013 11:06 PM

I told em...

CaptainCarl 08-08-2013 01:30 AM

According to the preference bid, our numbers have decreased by 13 since the staffing bid award. And I still see a name or two on there that won't be there for long...

With 26 Saabs and 8 1900s, we need a staffing level of roughly 250 pilots, bare minimum, to make this a smooth and successful operation. Otherwise, with training, vacation, and other considerations, they're going to have a really hard time keeping everything up to speed.

However, that said, with the reduction of flying on the Montana side, that brings us down to 4 1900s (with 1 or 2 spares). They still need about 225 guys/gals to stay on top of what they got. And they definitely need to start hiring more people to stop the hemorrhaging of pilots that they are currently experiencing. Which brings us to the question of: How does Silver Airways attract new applicants in a level playing field (i.e. the "1500 rule")?

Money. QOL. Two things Silver doesn't offer (comparatively to other regional carriers).

Propspilot 08-08-2013 03:28 AM


Originally Posted by CaptainCarl (Post 1458882)
According to the preference bid, our numbers have decreased by 13 since the staffing bid award. And I still see a name or two on there that won't be there for long...

With 26 Saabs and 8 1900s, we need a staffing level of roughly 250 pilots, bare minimum, to make this a smooth and successful operation. Otherwise, with training, vacation, and other considerations, they're going to have a really hard time keeping everything up to speed.

However, that said, with the reduction of flying on the Montana side, that brings us down to 4 1900s (with 1 or 2 spares). They still need about 225 guys/gals to stay on top of what they got. And they definitely need to start hiring more people to stop the hemorrhaging of pilots that they are currently experiencing. Which brings us to the question of: How does Silver Airways attract new applicants in a level playing field (i.e. the "1500 rule")?

Money. QOL. Two things Silver doesn't offer (comparatively to other regional carriers).

Where are you seeing the pref award?

jsfBoat 08-08-2013 09:43 AM


Originally Posted by inrange (Post 1458798)
Yup same out on interviews ready to leave


Originally Posted by mexipilot84 (Post 1458829)
12 days and a wake up! my favorite quote today from scheduling from one of my buddies.


"OMG you're not calling to quit too are you?"

That's too funny......


Originally Posted by Cruz5350 (Post 1458840)
Does anyone know how many are leaving this month? My best guess is 3-4.


Originally Posted by CaptainCarl (Post 1458882)
Which brings us to the question of: How does Silver Airways attract new applicants in a level playing field (i.e. the "1500 rule")?

Money. QOL. Two things Silver doesn't offer (comparatively to other regional carriers).

People come here because either no one else would hire us, or the quick upgrade (assuming someone didn't want to become a lifer), so now that other places are hiring (more willingly than before) that are better and no upgrades in sight for the majority of F/Os, I don't think they can attract anyone.

From what I'm hearing as far as going to the "Dream" company, they either want jet or PIC time, preferably both. None of which will happen for the vast majority of us here. Why stay here another year building time in a turboprop (which no one seems to care about anyways) when it would be better getting some jet time? Others have different reasons of leaving (Cruz) but I got some experience to make myself more marketable for other regionals (amazing what some Turbine 121 and an ATP ticket will do) that wouldn't have bothered to call me when I had only CFI and flying a few GA airplanes coast to coast trips for experience.

No matter what happens, if I'm on an overnight and I see you (former Silver Alumni) I'll stop and say hi and possibly have a beer or two with you.


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