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10-25-2013, 09:36 AM

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CaptainCarl

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They said they want to "move quickly" on this, which I suspect means, "We want this to happen quickly, so we are going to ask the Union for a one-time pass on Moving Expenses in exchange for the Hub-basing."

Anyway, it sounded like they're hoping for this to happen by January. Maybe they meant 2015

10-25-2013, 10:02 AM

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If silver goes to hub bases...what will the bases be?

10-25-2013, 10:29 AM

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So another regional with a hiring bonus, eh?

Interesting.

10-25-2013, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by pete2800

So another regional with a hiring bonus, eh?

Interesting.

It will probably be a lot more interesting in about 6 months with American's big hiring announcement a few weeks ago.

The industry is going full circle, in the 90's you paid them to work there, today they are paying you a bonus.

My prediction is the bonus will end up meaningless. Not that someone wouldn't work at Silver and collect a bonus, but will there be anyone available to work at Silver?

Student starts at all time lows
Student dropouts at all time highs
ATP and hour requirements
Rest duty rules

It's a formula for interesting times for sure.

10-25-2013, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DryMotorBoatin

If silver goes to hub bases...what will the bases be?

Hub-basing for the Saab - FLL, TPA, GNV, ATL, IAD.
Hub-basing for the Beech - CLE, DUJ (MX base).

10-25-2013, 12:50 PM

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Even if I was back on 2nd yr pay and had the bonus I'd still make less than what I do now lol.

10-25-2013, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainCarl

Hub-basing for the Saab - FLL, TPA, GNV, ATL, IAD.
Hub-basing for the Beech - CLE, DUJ (MX base).

So those in the know about this. Is January the goal for retraction? Was there a date given?

10-25-2013, 03:41 PM

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So those in the know about this. Is January the goal for retraction? Was there a date given?

No date given.

10-25-2013, 06:41 PM

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January 2025

10-26-2013, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Bassman1985

I believe the last part of that. If all the rest is true, it'll cost the company a fortune in moving expenses. The next staffing bid reflecting hub basing will be effectively a global reset, displacing nearly all of the DECs from last year to the right seat. It may pour gas on the pilot exodus fire. Great news in theory for us senior FOs who got bypassed and are still waiting for our money and a shot at TPIC time, but overall it could be a disaster.

"May you live in interesting times..."

I wonder if all this is a "let's say and not do" to keep people here as long as possible. Wish they'd offer something else besides a referal program to keep us here. They want to purchase additional Saabs (which is great for those of us wanting to upgrade) but are any additional B+s on the market? Hopefully I'll be able to upgrade, but highly doubt it.

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Originally Posted by Bassman1985

Contract says otherwise. Slowly shifting lines from out stations to hubs is changing staffing levels, and closing a status means they have to run one. There will be many grievances filed to stop the company from doing what you describe, and the lawyers will have lots of fun. I agree that they would love to do it they way you say they will, but they won't get away with it. Re: sections 9.B and 9.D

This company always finds a way to do things their way...... as I recently heard that P.L. once said "We'll do it anyways, so let the pilot group grieve it."