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Tom a Hawk 02-10-2014 06:20 PM


Originally Posted by ctab5060X (Post 1578587)
Very true, but it doesn't keep the ever revolving and new crew schedulers from asking.



Somehow I get the feeling that with this 18 day off requirement, we are going to end up with days where we have no reserves scheduled and others where every reserve is scheduled for 4am to 4pm.

We need (now) different reserve availability periods, and if the company is going to insist on building standup lines, we need reserves specifically designated to cover those if need be.

I really don't understand why those things haven't been implemented already. It's not like its rocket science, copy what other airlines do! Hope it's not a bad omen but before buffalo, colgan was still stuck in mom and pop mode too. 1 person in each department. You just can't do that. 1 person can't be responsible for say, all the manuals and the training department for a whole fleet.

200Driver 02-10-2014 06:24 PM


Originally Posted by Salukipilot4590 (Post 1578243)
I'm concerned as well man but what we can do right now is send a message by voting this down en masse.

We could argue until we're blue in the face about what SHOULD have been done but what we need to focus on right now is educating those who don't see this as a bad deal.

There is definitely a disconnect between our union leadership and a large portion of our pilot group, that's for sure. We'll have to address that at a later time.

Big Pappa hits the nail directly square on the head once again! Could not agree more!

For anyone that would like a copy I have spent a far amount of time breaking down the LOA from a logistical numbers perspective to show the hard truth, or an attempt to, from a mostly non opinionated perspective :D. I will have the final touches on it tomorrow. I hope to just present the information to whom ever I can within the pilot group to provide a break down of information that can be used as a reference point. If anyone would like a copy please PM me. I will only email them out to employees so unless I know you I will need some info to verify.

CaptainCarl 02-10-2014 07:13 PM


Originally Posted by 200Driver (Post 1578657)
Big Pappa hits the nail directly square on the head once again! Could not agree more!

For anyone that would like a copy I have spent a far amount of time breaking down the LOA from a logistical numbers perspective to show the hard truth, or an attempt to, from a mostly non opinionated perspective :D. I will have the final touches on it tomorrow. I hope to just present the information to whom ever I can within the pilot group to provide a break down of information that can be used as a reference point. If anyone would like a copy please PM me. I will only email them out to employees so unless I know you I will need some info to verify.

Send one my way once you're finished. Big Brown Bear has my deets.

CaptainCarl 02-10-2014 08:51 PM


Originally Posted by Cruz5350 (Post 1578645)
Now I didn't spend 8 hrs but when I was the MEI rep I saw decent lines one month. I told MM the guys would like that and the only thing everyone would like to see was commutability on one end of a pairing if not both. Then the lines came out..... Way worse than anything we had seen for the base ever.

When I was the Scheduling rep in DUJ, we had consistent morning, afternoon, and weekend schedules. Of course I got stuck with weekends but, heck, at least it was regular :cool:

Persistence is key ;)

Trufactor7 02-11-2014 06:02 AM

FloridaExpressJet.com Fly Florida!
Any of you guys here about this airline ? Supposedly they start up in March I believe . I don't see this airline popping up unheard and beginning service that fast

tom11011 02-11-2014 06:18 AM


Originally Posted by Trufactor7 (Post 1578885)
FloridaExpressJet.com Fly Florida!
Any of you guys here about this airline ? Supposedly they start up in March I believe . I don't see this airline popping up unheard and beginning service that fast

Found this on their website after a bit of searching.


Don’t let the $69 rate fool you. Our fleet of Boeing 737s is loaded with all the “essentials” a Florida traveler could want. Sink into cozy leather seats, stay connected with free in-flight Wi-Fi and stretch out with ample legroom. When you Fly Florida!, it will be easy to finish that business presentation or keep the kids entertained until you land.
$69 intraflorida in a 737?? Hard to imagine this being profitable.

200Driver 02-11-2014 01:49 PM

I sent out the LOA info to the guys who requested it.


and some who didn't.... :D

ctab5060X 02-11-2014 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by 200Driver (Post 1579210)
I sent out the LOA info to the guys who requested it.


and some who didn't.... :D

Looks good. I think you did an outstanding job showing just how much the reserves stand to lose with the new language.

Then again, not the first time reserves have been thrown under the bus in negotiations.

tim123 02-11-2014 05:18 PM


Originally Posted by Trufactor7 (Post 1578885)
FloridaExpressJet.com Fly Florida!
Any of you guys here about this airline ? Supposedly they start up in March I believe . I don't see this airline popping up unheard and beginning service that fast

Swift Air I think is operating the flights.

1980AZ 02-12-2014 09:53 AM


Originally Posted by tim123 (Post 1579331)
Swift Air I think is operating the flights.

According to the "reliable" Wikipedia swift air operates 4 b737 all first class configuration. I guessed they got mod? Can't imaging $69 for FC...:rolleyes:


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