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Old 02-02-2016, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Jc2016 View Post
Guys, I wanted to thank you for all the input. My wife and I decided to stay with AWAC, I really like it here, plus leaving in base with a family its something else. Plus there is always a chance that AWAC will continue. I figure that in 2-3 years with my time I might land a job at a major at least(crossing fingers). I was hesitant to post here since there is a lot of negativity, but i am glad this thread stayed on point. Hopefully these cheese heads do a better job recruiting, instead of giving 100 dollar gift card.
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I believe you have made a great decision. Fate truly is the hunter. When I cfiing, and grinding to get a 1000 hours TT to get on w skywest or horizon in 06-07. My friends who were at regionals (whiskey,envoy,psa, pinnacle) said it might be time to get on w a regional who is hiring with less, and has quick upgrades. I chose Pdt and moved across the country. Sat rsv for almost 2 years before being furloughed for 10 months. (Lucky, I was still in early 20s and moved home and flew a seaplane for a few months to keep me doing what I love) 1 month after pdt recalled me I was offered a interview and job at compass. Had to make the decision to jump or stay. Said to myself, ya know today's greatest airline is tomorrows worst and vise versa. Pdt at that time was bottom of the barrel. Decided to stay put. Lived in base. Pay was horrible.. But, I finally got my shot to upgrade...Few years later. Was only on ca rsv 9 months now 15 in base out of 42. Way I see it. WHISKEY ISN'T GOING ANYWHERE. And things will move it the right direction very soon. Obviously not as fast at pdt cause we are so small. For what it is worth, I say you made the rigjt decision to not jump laterally. Someone mentioned go to airline like it is your last. Get your seniority number and hold on to it! Best of luck to you and your future.
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Old 02-02-2016, 10:43 AM
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I believe you have made a great decision. Fate truly is the hunter. When I cfiing, and grinding to get a 1000 hours TT to get on w skywest or horizon in 06-07. My friends who were at regionals (whiskey,envoy,psa, pinnacle) said it might be time to get on w a regional who is hiring with less, and has quick upgrades. I chose Pdt and moved across the country. Sat rsv for almost 2 years before being furloughed for 10 months. (Lucky, I was still in early 20s and moved home and flew a seaplane for a few months to keep me doing what I love) 1 month after pdt recalled me I was offered a interview and job at compass. Had to make the decision to jump or stay. Said to myself, ya know today's greatest airline is tomorrows worst and vise versa. Pdt at that time was bottom of the barrel. Decided to stay put. Lived in base. Pay was horrible.. But, I finally got my shot to upgrade...Few years later. Was only on ca rsv 9 months now 15 in base out of 42. Way I see it. WHISKEY ISN'T GOING ANYWHERE. And things will move it the right direction very soon. Obviously not as fast at pdt cause we are so small. For what it is worth, I say you made the rigjt decision to not jump laterally. Someone mentioned go to airline like it is your last. Get your seniority number and hold on to it! Best of luck to you and your future.
Just think had you gone to Compass you'd be at Delta now.
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I am an FO with more than 1000 121, I have been there a little over two years, and I am on the top third of the FO list. The fact that I am gaining seniority not by upgrades, but FO's leaving is making me feel like I should to. Unfortunately, PDT will be a huge pay cut. Commut air would be a pay increase with all the bonuses, but a commute to reserve. Someone once told me don't get comfortable at a regional, but with a family to take care off it is hard not to, especially with the killer insurance they have here. Part of me says stick around maybe AWAC will get a flow or by the time this place goes under I will be interviewing at a major or maybe a legacy. The other side says go now, pay dues once again and now wait for ur time or a phone call.
I don't think at this point I would do a lateral move. I would consider street captain or LCC only. How old are you?
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Perhaps, but when I went to interview I would have just been offered the "interview" not the flow.Healthcare was pathetic compared to pdts. And from what I understand there is actually nothing on paper for the pilots at compass that says you grt a delta interview handed to you now. Could be wrong though? Compass worked out great for everyone hired before 2011!
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Originally Posted by Jc2016 View Post
Guys, I wanted to thank you for all the input. My wife and I decided to stay with AWAC, I really like it here, plus leaving in base with a family its something else. Plus there is always a chance that AWAC will continue. I figure that in 2-3 years with my time I might land a job at a major at least(crossing fingers). I was hesitant to post here since there is a lot of negativity, but i am glad this thread stayed on point. Hopefully these cheese heads do a better job recruiting, instead of giving 100 dollar gift card.
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I commend you for sitting down with your wife and making the decision as a family. You've made the right decision. Don't waver or let these jaded pilots sway you. Good luck man.
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It depends on which "other airlines" you mean. One in particular comes to mind, and their planes happen to be newer and very low time, so may not be quite the dogs that other -200s are.

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So why are other airlines acquiring 50-seaters if there is not a place in the market for them?
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I'm about 8 months in and am also at ZW thinking of bailing for endeavor. I'm originally from msp area, miss it, and given my relative seniority at awac the 30/hr + bonus could hardly even be considered lateral. Captain today said he'd do it in a heartbeat, sooner the better.
That would be a good move in my opinion.

I'm about 5 months in, thinking of going the CommutAir myself. Might just do the United interview, see if I am successful. Nothing to lose.
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I'm about 8 months in and am also at ZW thinking of bailing for endeavor. I'm originally from msp area, miss it, and given my relative seniority at awac the 30/hr + bonus could hardly even be considered lateral. Captain today said he'd do it in a heartbeat, sooner the better.
Many, many years ago when I was a ZW new hire a classmate left for Compass after about a year or two. I thought it was pretty dumb... Boy was I wrong! Best move he ever made. He was also a MSP guy and much happier.
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I also know a guy who left pdt in 2012 for republic. They were growing and things looked great. Had he stayed at pdt he would be a captain close to flowing to AA. Most don't like to talk about the bad moves. I know a us air furlough who took a job with AE in 06 ish when offered he turned down the opportunity to return to us air now he is waiting to flow losing over 16 years of seniority at a legacy.
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