Alpine Jumpseat
11-09-2023, 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 250kt Final
Its a hard nope....had a few fedex and ups guys ask the same question in the past.....honestly it would be awesome if Alpine had an agreement with the main cargo carriers for ride aong privledges.
11-15-2023, 10:51 AM
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Jumpseat w/ Alpine Air
Originally Posted by BarryWhite
I did not.
11-15-2023, 01:41 PM
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Hey guys,
It would be great to jumpseat between Alpine and the 121 side, I know I'd love the chance to ride a jumpseat with UPS or Fedex, but unfortunately it's probably not very practical with our aircraft and operation. Off the top of my head this is what comes to mind when thinking about potential obstacles:
We don't have CASS, and at our outstations we would have to come up with a way to access it if we did join it. We would probably also need to adjust training for our pilots to make sure nobody screws it up too bad if we did opt into CASS to start letting other pilots ride along, and of course there's all the leg work to make sure it works within our OpsSpecs and such. None of this is impossible, but there's a lot of work to do and with our operation I don't know if we (the company, not the pilots) would really gain that much from it. If I'm missing something big here please feel free to fill me in.
Another fairly big problem is our jumpseats. We're a single pilot cargo operation with a PDP program, so sometimes we also have an SIC in the plane and the right seat isn't always open. We can install a single optional jumpseat, but those usually aren't installed in the plane unless it's a training flight, line check, or the FAA wants to take a ride with us. In fact, most of our outstations don't have a jumpseat available so we would have to install one at the primary base before departing on the morning leg if somehow we knew we would need it later. If we did install a jumpseat because we had that required advance notice, then we have to move the front cabin cargo net back a few feet to make room for the seat. Doing that reduces our avaiable cargo volume and can make a big difference in several boxes getting left behind or not when we're completely full in the morning. This is especially problematic during peak cargo season from Thanksgiving to after New Year's when getting as much as possible into the cargo area really matters.
I don't know, I'm not speaking for the company I'm just spit balling with you guys here, but I just don't see us doing this anytime in the near future. However, I am going to show this thread to the rest of the management team so they know there's still interest in this happening. If a reason or opportunity to do this comes up I'll certainly let you guys know.
It would be great to jumpseat between Alpine and the 121 side, I know I'd love the chance to ride a jumpseat with UPS or Fedex, but unfortunately it's probably not very practical with our aircraft and operation. Off the top of my head this is what comes to mind when thinking about potential obstacles:
We don't have CASS, and at our outstations we would have to come up with a way to access it if we did join it. We would probably also need to adjust training for our pilots to make sure nobody screws it up too bad if we did opt into CASS to start letting other pilots ride along, and of course there's all the leg work to make sure it works within our OpsSpecs and such. None of this is impossible, but there's a lot of work to do and with our operation I don't know if we (the company, not the pilots) would really gain that much from it. If I'm missing something big here please feel free to fill me in.
Another fairly big problem is our jumpseats. We're a single pilot cargo operation with a PDP program, so sometimes we also have an SIC in the plane and the right seat isn't always open. We can install a single optional jumpseat, but those usually aren't installed in the plane unless it's a training flight, line check, or the FAA wants to take a ride with us. In fact, most of our outstations don't have a jumpseat available so we would have to install one at the primary base before departing on the morning leg if somehow we knew we would need it later. If we did install a jumpseat because we had that required advance notice, then we have to move the front cabin cargo net back a few feet to make room for the seat. Doing that reduces our avaiable cargo volume and can make a big difference in several boxes getting left behind or not when we're completely full in the morning. This is especially problematic during peak cargo season from Thanksgiving to after New Year's when getting as much as possible into the cargo area really matters.
I don't know, I'm not speaking for the company I'm just spit balling with you guys here, but I just don't see us doing this anytime in the near future. However, I am going to show this thread to the rest of the management team so they know there's still interest in this happening. If a reason or opportunity to do this comes up I'll certainly let you guys know.
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