Part 91 Type Rating for 135
#1
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Part 91 Type Rating for 135
Hey Fellows,
I have a quick reg question: I hold a type rating that I have done
privately, it was for part 91 flying. Now I apply for part 135 company
on the same airplane. Are they going to send me to initial again?
I have a quick reg question: I hold a type rating that I have done
privately, it was for part 91 flying. Now I apply for part 135 company
on the same airplane. Are they going to send me to initial again?
#2
Part 135 and 121 operators will have an approved training program which will have to be completed, whatever it consists of.
You typically get to skip a few tasks since you already have the type, so it's not an FAA type ride.
You typically get to skip a few tasks since you already have the type, so it's not an FAA type ride.
#3
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It depends. I had to do a full GIV initial even though I had a 91 type already. I hadn't flown the IV for 12 years at that point.
You will always have to do a 293/297/299 oral/rides when joining any 135 operation. I was current on the IV and had someone offer a job and I would have needed an indoc and recurrent with a 293/297/299 specific for that company.
So, OP, if you're 12 month current, you can probably get by with a recurrent and company check rides listed above. All IMO, of course.
You will always have to do a 293/297/299 oral/rides when joining any 135 operation. I was current on the IV and had someone offer a job and I would have needed an indoc and recurrent with a 293/297/299 specific for that company.
So, OP, if you're 12 month current, you can probably get by with a recurrent and company check rides listed above. All IMO, of course.
#4
I've been hired by two different 135s with an already existent type rating on the airframe in which I was hired.
On one of them, my type rating was less than a year old. I had to do a full recurrent under their training program, which consisted of a 135 check ride at the end.
On the other, since it had been more than 36 months (3 years) since my last training event, I had to do an entire initial type course, followed by a 135 checkride at the end.
The above are pretty common scenarios, but it all depends upon the 135 operator's training program, as mentioned upthread.
For example:
A friend of a friend's buddy just got laid off from Jet half-way through 550 school this past week.
Jet was "gracious" enough to let him finish the course and get his type (it was already paid for, so why not?).
Through networking, he got picked up by another of the "Big 3" management companies, and they're going to immediately send him to a 550 recurrent right after he finishes Indoc.
Even though the ink isn't even dry on his brand new type, he's bound by his new employer's training program.
On one of them, my type rating was less than a year old. I had to do a full recurrent under their training program, which consisted of a 135 check ride at the end.
On the other, since it had been more than 36 months (3 years) since my last training event, I had to do an entire initial type course, followed by a 135 checkride at the end.
The above are pretty common scenarios, but it all depends upon the 135 operator's training program, as mentioned upthread.
For example:
A friend of a friend's buddy just got laid off from Jet half-way through 550 school this past week.
Jet was "gracious" enough to let him finish the course and get his type (it was already paid for, so why not?).
Through networking, he got picked up by another of the "Big 3" management companies, and they're going to immediately send him to a 550 recurrent right after he finishes Indoc.
Even though the ink isn't even dry on his brand new type, he's bound by his new employer's training program.
#5
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There is no such thing has a "part 91" type rating. It does not exist.
There is no such thing as a "part 135 type rating."
You have a pilot certificate. On that certificate, you hold a type rating. Whether you conducted flying with that type rating under Part 91 or part 135 previously, is irrelevant.
An operator must adhere to the requirements of it's FAA-approved training program. If the operator uses a contract training center and has no provision for the short course, then you may be required to undergo the full training. Many operators have provision in their training program to account for existing certification. Many do not, or require the full training program.
Operators often prefer or require previously typed applicants, as it costs the operator less for training expenses.
You'll be required to undergo whatever the operator requires per its approved training program.
There is no such thing as a "part 135 type rating."
You have a pilot certificate. On that certificate, you hold a type rating. Whether you conducted flying with that type rating under Part 91 or part 135 previously, is irrelevant.
An operator must adhere to the requirements of it's FAA-approved training program. If the operator uses a contract training center and has no provision for the short course, then you may be required to undergo the full training. Many operators have provision in their training program to account for existing certification. Many do not, or require the full training program.
Operators often prefer or require previously typed applicants, as it costs the operator less for training expenses.
You'll be required to undergo whatever the operator requires per its approved training program.
#6
As pointed out, you've got the type already. The company will still have to conduct a checkride but they can use a regular check airman, it doesn't have to be a Fed or company DE. While you have the systems knowledge, the new company procedures may be different and you may have to unlearn the old way of doing things.
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