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Overachiever 03-11-2023 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by astray (Post 3606293)
You can definitely get in as a CA, the question is just if there's spots. Looks like GEG is open.


Astray are the available locations public or is it internally posted?

astray 03-13-2023 09:41 AM


Originally Posted by Overachiever (Post 3606326)
Astray are the available locations public or is it internally posted?

It's on their website publicly

frmrbuffdrvr 03-15-2023 08:25 PM


Originally Posted by astray (Post 3606293)
You can definitely get in as a CA, the question is just if there's spots. Looks like GEG is open.

What he said. I think there are also E120 capt openings in our Charter dept, which will be based out of CVG by the time you would be hired and get through training.

climb150 03-19-2023 09:44 AM

Hello everyone,

I applied for Capt on the B1900 a few weeks ago. A recruiter emailed to arrange an online chat but he never called and now he is not responding to me. Any ideas how I can move this along?

frmrbuffdrvr 03-20-2023 08:12 AM


Originally Posted by climb150 (Post 3609926)
Hello everyone,

I applied for Capt on the B1900 a few weeks ago. A recruiter emailed to arrange an online chat but he never called and now he is not responding to me. Any ideas how I can move this along?

PM me .

cfii2007 03-24-2023 03:48 AM

Saw this under the Home Based 1900 posting.......any idea how ESCS works? What is integrator?

May fly integrator or ESCS (charter) flights. When flying ESCS, will be required to assist in load / offload of cargo.

QRH Bingo 03-24-2023 09:38 AM


Originally Posted by cfii2007 (Post 3612651)
Saw this under the Home Based 1900 posting.......any idea how ESCS works? What is integrator?

May fly integrator or ESCS (charter) flights. When flying ESCS, will be required to assist in load / offload of cargo.

My guess is scheduled freight feeder runs for UPS, FedEx, DHL. Being home based, they will use you wherever needed for your 2 weeks on. Scheduled runs the pilots do not load/unload aircraft. Charter is different, so pilots do load/unload.

ZippyNH 03-24-2023 10:30 AM


Originally Posted by QRH Bingo (Post 3612943)
....My guess is scheduled freight feeder runs for UPS, FedEx, DHL. Being home based, they will use you wherever needed for your 2 weeks on. Scheduled runs the pilots do not load/unload aircraft. Charter is different, so pilots do load/unload.

generally+1 for all
But pilot load/unload does involve fairly substantial extra pay.
For some it's s no go, for others a $$$ evil.
Both a very different lifestyles, with different typical patterns of work.

cfii2007 05-02-2023 05:58 AM

Any updates on hiring?

Continuingappch 05-02-2023 05:56 PM


Originally Posted by cfii2007 (Post 3631603)
Any updates on hiring?

What kind of update do you need? Seventeen openings:

https://w3.ameriflight.com/pilots/

cfii2007 05-10-2023 11:11 AM


Originally Posted by Continuingappch (Post 3631948)
What kind of update do you need? Seventeen openings:

https://w3.ameriflight.com/pilots/

Thanks.....any idea if the charter positions (B1900, E120......etc) carry two pilots or one?

Continuingappch 05-10-2023 04:29 PM

Obviously the types that require two pilots...!

Much of the ESCS is in the Metro and also is crewed with two pilots.

frmrbuffdrvr 05-15-2023 09:42 AM


Originally Posted by cfii2007 (Post 3634928)
Thanks.....any idea if the charter positions (B1900, E120......etc) carry two pilots or one?

Charter flights are regularly flown in the SA227, E120 and SF340. Obviously the SAAB and Brasilia require two crew. The Metro CAN be operated single pilot but we prefer to use two crew so they are able to go up to 10 hours of flight time under 135.267.

We normally don't use Beech aircraft (99 or 1900) on charter operations.

BigKitten229180 05-31-2023 01:56 PM

How quick do people at AMF jump over to major? I’ve been thinking about going this route instead of a regional. Also how is the QOL recently?

cfii2007 05-31-2023 02:54 PM


Originally Posted by frmrbuffdrvr (Post 3636859)
Charter flights are regularly flown in the SA227, E120 and SF340. Obviously the SAAB and Brasilia require two crew. The Metro CAN be operated single pilot but we prefer to use two crew so they are able to go up to 10 hours of flight time under 135.267.

We normally don't use Beech aircraft (99 or 1900) on charter operations.

Thanks.....I have some King Air time and well over 1200+ hours....do they hire into the E120 as an FO on the charter side? I don't quite meet the mins for those openings...........

BustedGear 06-02-2023 11:04 AM


Originally Posted by cfii2007 (Post 3644495)
Thanks.....I have some King Air time and well over 1200+ hours....do they hire into the E120 as an FO on the charter side? I don't quite meet the mins for those openings...........

You will never be hired as an E120 FO because you have too many hours for that position. Generally, as soon as an FO gets enough hours to be a PIC, they will be send to BE99 PIC school.

frmrbuffdrvr 06-04-2023 06:22 PM


Originally Posted by cfii2007 (Post 3644495)
Thanks.....I have some King Air time and well over 1200+ hours....do they hire into the E120 as an FO on the charter side? I don't quite meet the mins for those openings...........

BustedGear is right. If you are already legal to fly as a 135 captain, you won't be hired as an FO. We NEED FOs for our transport category planes but we primarily want them to move to the captain ranks. If you are set on flying the charter planes, come on as a captain in a plane you are qualified for and then bid to the Charter captain spots as you gain hours.

cfii2007 06-06-2023 12:47 AM


Originally Posted by frmrbuffdrvr (Post 3646404)
BustedGear is right. If you are already legal to fly as a 135 captain, you won't be hired as an FO. We NEED FOs for our transport category planes but we primarily want them to move to the captain ranks. If you are set on flying the charter planes, come on as a captain in a plane you are qualified for and then bid to the Charter captain spots as you gain hours.

Thanks............

frmrbuffdrvr 06-12-2023 08:54 AM


Originally Posted by BigKitten229180 (Post 3644458)
How quick do people at AMF jump over to major? I’ve been thinking about going this route instead of a regional. Also how is the QOL recently?

The answer to that varies. Are you talking about someone with 500 hours coming in as an FO? Or someone with a couple thousand hours coming on as an E120 or SF340 captain? Are you coming through the United Aviate Program? Or just on your own? I know one guy who went from E120 FO to BE99 Check Airman/BE1900 Captain and left for Delta in less than 4 years. I don't know what other connections he had, though.

QOL depends on what you consider is good for you. Do you want to move around or be home every night? Or flying at night and home every day? Do you want to live where you currently are or are you willing to move to a new base?

BigKitten229180 06-13-2023 06:29 AM


Originally Posted by frmrbuffdrvr (Post 3649448)
The answer to that varies. Are you talking about someone with 500 hours coming in as an FO? Or someone with a couple thousand hours coming on as an E120 or SF340 captain? Are you coming through the United Aviate Program? Or just on your own? I know one guy who went from E120 FO to BE99 Check Airman/BE1900 Captain and left for Delta in less than 4 years. I don't know what other connections he had, though.

QOL depends on what you consider is good for you. Do you want to move around or be home every night? Or flying at night and home every day? Do you want to live where you currently are or are you willing to move to a new base?

I would be coming in on my own. Debating on regionals or ameriflight I’ve always wanted to try cargo flying and check that off before I’m at an airline for the rest of my life but don’t want to miss the hiring wave. I’m also a cadet for a ULCC but has a long commitment that I don’t know if I’m willing to do so looking at other options. In terms of QOL I’m young and single so open to anything!

FlightLife 07-16-2023 03:22 PM


Originally Posted by BigKitten229180 (Post 3649938)
I would be coming in on my own. Debating on regionals or ameriflight I’ve always wanted to try cargo flying and check that off before I’m at an airline for the rest of my life but don’t want to miss the hiring wave. I’m also a cadet for a ULCC but has a long commitment that I don’t know if I’m willing to do so looking at other options. In terms of QOL I’m young and single so open to anything!

For what it’s worth, I chose 135 cargo with AMF over the regionals and I don’t regret it. Great experience. I’m at UPS now, but there’s other options after AMF. Cargo all the way for me.

cfii2007 07-17-2023 12:58 PM


Originally Posted by FlightLife (Post 3667321)
For what it’s worth, I chose 135 cargo with AMF over the regionals and I don’t regret it. Great experience. I’m at UPS now, but there’s other options after AMF. Cargo all the way for me.

Believe it or not, there are some of us who have no desire to fly with a regional airline and commute week in and week out.............

FlightLife 07-17-2023 02:44 PM


Originally Posted by cfii2007 (Post 3667815)
Believe it or not, there are some of us who have no desire to fly with a regional airline and commute week in and week out.............

Yeah, that’s what I was getting at. Skip the regionals.

Plabelover 07-17-2023 05:04 PM


Originally Posted by FlightLife (Post 3667881)
Yeah, that’s what I was getting at. Skip the regionals.

Is it a good place to work to build multi time and go to a ULCC or even a legacy after if I get hired with the minimum requirements?

cfii2007 07-18-2023 02:27 AM


Originally Posted by Plabelover (Post 3667957)
Is it a good place to work to build multi time and go to a ULCC or even a legacy after if I get hired with the minimum requirements?

Not sure about a legacy, but pretty sure an ULCC would pick you up. AMF does have a good variety of airframes, so you could upgrade from one to the next, or work on the charter side if it fits your lifestyle.

Plabelover 07-18-2023 06:15 AM


Originally Posted by cfii2007 (Post 3668106)
Not sure about a legacy, but pretty sure an ULCC would pick you up. AMF does have a good variety of airframes, so you could upgrade from one to the next, or work on the charter side if it fits your lifestyle.

Thank you! do you mind if I ask if commuting is a possibility at AMF or should I be living in one of their bases. Thank you!

QRH Bingo 07-18-2023 10:00 AM


Originally Posted by Plabelover (Post 3668179)
Thank you! do you mind if I ask if commuting is a possibility at AMF or should I be living in one of their bases. Thank you!

Commuting is not really possible, at least on their scheduled runs (I do not know how they work the charter side of things, but assuming as an FO, you will not be "home based"). You will need to live in base, or at least have a place to stay. Sure, you could attempt to go "home" on Saturday/Sunday, but you'll need to be back Monday. Different bases have different schedules but most runs are Mon-Fri with some Mon-Sat so there just is not enough time to make commuting home for the weekend viable.

Plabelover 07-18-2023 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by QRH Bingo (Post 3668329)
Commuting is not really possible, at least on their scheduled runs (I do not know how they work the charter side of things, but assuming as an FO, you will not be "home based"). You will need to live in base, or at least have a place to stay. Sure, you could attempt to go "home" on Saturday/Sunday, but you'll need to be back Monday. Different bases have different schedules but most runs are Mon-Fri with some Mon-Sat so there just is not enough time to make commuting home for the weekend viable.

when you get hired are bases assigned to you or based on age?

cfii2007 07-18-2023 02:08 PM


Originally Posted by Plabelover (Post 3668394)
when you get hired are bases assigned to you or based on age?

You apply for a certain airframe and base......others will open up over time.

I'm not sure what process they use if you are flying a BE99 run for example and want to bid a B1900 run.

CaptainJay 07-18-2023 02:56 PM


Originally Posted by cfii2007 (Post 3668518)
You apply for a certain airframe and base......others will open up over time.

I'm not sure what process they use if you are flying a BE99 run for example and want to bid a B1900 run.

They post a vacancy bid every so often and anyone can bid any base/equipment they can hold. AMF is not a commutable job, you must live in whatever base your run is. Most pilots (except the ESCS charter) work 5 days a week and the runs are out and backs. You can go TDY to other bases also from time to time.

FlightLife 07-19-2023 08:02 AM


Originally Posted by Plabelover (Post 3667957)
Is it a good place to work to build multi time and go to a ULCC or even a legacy after if I get hired with the minimum requirements?

For me, AMF was a great time and confidence builder in the airplane. I became a 99 capt with just over 300 hrs in airplanes (flew different category aircraft before).
Most leave AMF for ULCC or ACMI on the cargo side, but a legacy isn’t unheard of. Just had a guy go from AMF straight to Delta this year, but he was an instructor, check airman, and had a letter of recommendation.

mauleman 08-16-2023 09:45 AM


Originally Posted by QRH Bingo (Post 3668329)
Commuting is not really possible, at least on their scheduled runs (I do not know how they work the charter side of things, but assuming as an FO, you will not be "home based"). You will need to live in base, or at least have a place to stay. Sure, you could attempt to go "home" on Saturday/Sunday, but you'll need to be back Monday. Different bases have different schedules but most runs are Mon-Fri with some Mon-Sat so there just is not enough time to make commuting home for the weekend viable.

So for someone who is living in Seattle they would realistically need to move to Spokane in order to work for Ameriflight?

QRH Bingo 08-16-2023 03:17 PM


Originally Posted by mauleman (Post 3683596)
So for someone who is living in Seattle they would realistically need to move to Spokane in order to work for Ameriflight?

Depends on what they have open and which routes need to be filled. You need to ask their recruiters or go to their job listings and poke around every other day or so. But yes, you really need to live wherever you are based.
I know for sure they have one person in BLI that comes open from time to time. They used to have pilots at BFI too, tho I am unsure if that is still staffed. I still see a 99 sitting on the ramp in SEA, tho I do not know where it is based.

mauleman 08-17-2023 04:38 PM


Originally Posted by QRH Bingo (Post 3683704)
Depends on what they have open and which routes need to be filled. You need to ask their recruiters or go to their job listings and poke around every other day or so. But yes, you really need to live wherever you are based.
I know for sure they have one person in BLI that comes open from time to time. They used to have pilots at BFI too, tho I am unsure if that is still staffed. I still see a 99 sitting on the ramp in SEA, tho I do not know where it is based.

Ok thanks great to know there's a possibility for staying in the Seattle area.

Hawaii808 08-19-2023 07:05 PM


Originally Posted by mauleman (Post 3684266)
Ok thanks great to know there's a possibility for staying in the Seattle area.

BFI used to be the Ameriflight base and would be moved to Spokane during peak season due to the enormous amount of cargo just for Seattle area taking up all of the ramp space. During that time the BFI-BLI run still flew out of BFI. Now the Spokane is the Ameriflight base I would imagine the aircraft seen at BFI is either that BFI-BLI run or a schedule from the PDX base.

I haven’t worked there in over a decade, but I wouldn’t recommend it.

astray 08-19-2023 10:45 PM

There's still a couple 99s and 1900s operating out of BFI, BLI is a 1900 run out of BFI. GEG is mainly a Brasilia base with a single 1900 I think.

The 99 at SEA is I believe a DHL run operating SEA-GEG M-F with potential to be called to fly Sat out of BFI.

All the bases up there get covered by PDX reserve if anything happens.

MinRest 08-20-2023 06:31 PM


Originally Posted by Hawaii808 (Post 3685275)
I haven’t worked there in over a decade, but I wouldn’t recommend it.

Yea, I haven't been there in a decade either and I can't imagine why anyone would go to AMF in 2023. It was a horrible place back then lol...

mauleman 08-20-2023 06:41 PM


Originally Posted by MinRest (Post 3685670)
Yea, I haven't been there in a decade either and I can't imagine why anyone would go to AMF in 2023. It was a horrible place back then lol...

Well maybe you can help me. I'll be moving to the north east corner of the Seattle area and looking for a flying job. Any suggestions with my time below?

1600 Total time
1500 PIC
200 PIC Turbine (Single Engine)
1000 Tailwheel
500 Float
16 MEL
500 VFR Part 135 experience
(Hopefully 135 IFR minimums soon)

MinRest 08-20-2023 06:47 PM


Originally Posted by mauleman (Post 3685671)
Well maybe you can help me. I'll be moving to the north east corner of the Seattle area and looking for a flying job. Any suggestions with my time below?

1600 Total time
1500 PIC
200 PIC Turbine (Single Engine)
1000 Tailwheel
500 Float
16 MEL
500 VFR Part 135 experience
(Hopefully 135 IFR minimums soon)

What is your end goal? Lots of right seat jet jobs for somebody like you, or work on getting ATP mins and go to a regional.

mauleman 08-20-2023 06:50 PM


Originally Posted by MinRest (Post 3685676)
What is your end goal? Lots of right seat jet jobs for somebody like you, or work on getting ATP mins and go to a regional.

Other than seaplanes I'd rather go cargo over regional. I have no real IFR experience and would like to land a PIC IFR job if possible or work that direction for now. That's what seemed attractive about Ameriflight.

No end goal yet.


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