Minimums are 3000, but what's actually competitive? With a flow through, we already know the answer.

 

3000TT people are getting hired.

Honest question, has anyone used the preferential hiring to get hired there?

 

Not from my base. A handful of guys are eligable. If I were single, they would have my resume.

 

Not that it matters, but I'm curious why he wouldn't be able to apply like anyone else without the endorsement.

Regardless, the minimums AMF lists for the recommendation are designed more to keep a pilot around here for a certain minimum time and not so much that Allegiant requires it. And that also addresses to the "conflict of interest" question. A big part of the program is to give guys an incentive to stay here rather than jumping to the regionals as soon as they can. And so it isn't a matter of "reducing" the pilot numbers at AMF but in fact trying to keep guys here for 1-2 years longer.

 

So its in the interest of the company, not the employee. Color me shocked. It looked good on paper when it was first announced, but as soon as Allegiant dropped their street advertised minimums to ATP minimums, it became a farce. Especially when people were leaving and being asked, if you stick around 6 more months can we interest you in the Allegiant deal? You want someone to walk away from a job they've presumably been offered for a shot at an interview at a carrier that appears on the surface to be nothing more than Ameriflight in the 121 world with jets?

The pilot group has seen right thru the garbage. It didn't slow attrition down at all, at least that was the case when I left a few months back. Heck, something like less than 25% of the pilot group is even qualified for it, IIRC. It's nothing more than a marketing gimmick to try to get fresh blood in the door. If it was a flow through, it would make it at least somewhat attractive to stay and endure the crap sandwich.

 

I am not at AMF so you would know more than I would, but from what I understand the agreement between AMF and Allegiant stipulates that an AMF employee cannot apply to Allegiant, the company has to submit your resume to Allegiant.

To address your second statement, the guy that I am referring to has been with AMF over 4 years. Several attempts to get the ball rolling between AMF and Allegiant has failed, and he has tried since the program was announced.

 

Bingo. Make no mistake, it isn't even close to a flow through, but it is a great plan if it works. For guys who want to go to Allegiant after 3 years at AMF, hey that's cool. But guys are getting hired at Allegiant without the help of AMF, and with lower minimums and qualifications than what AMF requires. For the program to truly attract pilots to AMF, it has to actually work. I am legitimately curious if anyone from AMF has gone to Allegiant under this program, I hope they have. It is also true that this only qualifies for a small percentage of the pilot group in the first place. In this market right now, if you cannot get the CP to get the ball rolling for you, and you do not meet the AMF requirements to get an interview, than you worse off than if you didn't work at AMF because guys are getting calls with lower requirements.

 

That I hadn't heard. But if it is true, I can definitely see your point.

 

I asked around about if that was true or not before I left, and I couldn't get a firm answer one way or another from anybody I asked.

 

Supposedly my buddy did ask and was told that it must be submitted from AMF to Allegiant by somebody. It makes total sense that it has to be that way for the system to work.