Today wasn't bad, I will have 7 hours with the fam. I still think we are all worth more. Some days are not too bad, some days are awful. Working a 2nd job to make the bills does add a lot of stress. 16 weeks to go, but who's counting? Reminds me of deployment!


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New pay scale is out. Looks like it's basically the 4 month bonuses rolled into the monthly paychecks. No big raise, but it makes sure everyone is getting that 44K number. Bigger 2 week checks means easier to pay the bills, which is a win in my book. Seems like there are some good things starting to happen up top, let's hope it continues.


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[QUOTE=LRSRanger;2002807]New pay scale is out.


know when it takes effect?

Very good post. If you can enjoy your layover it will go a long way with this job.

[QUOTE=Flyingthomas;2002826]Nov 15th.

Much needed! very nice.

Nov 15th

I thought it was April.

A good change! I would have waited till after peak to cash out the remainder of that bonus...but oh well.

While this technically isn't a "raise" it will create an increased rate for things like specials, extra units, and T pay.

A good move for sure.

Exactly, not a big raise, but it will have an impact like you said. I also would have cashed out after peak...


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Would Ameriflight take part time guys? I have a crap load of time off, and I know they're costantly short here in ABQ. I can use Multi time too.

Not normally. Most part timers have been guys who fulfilled an initial commitment and then stayed on as part time when they went elsewhere. But these days? I would say contact recruiting and see what they say.

You say you are low on multi time, but do you have 1200 total and the other 135 IFR requirements?

Good to hear the retention money will now be rolled into your normal pay. Hopefully this will lower your attrition rate enough that you guys will be able to take a couple of days off every now and then. That AMF schedule can wear you down after a while.

Well now there will be no reason to stick it out those extra 2 months so you can get the bonus, then quit. But I totally agree with you.

As a note for any potential new hires, I have heard they may be interested in some VFR only captains, if you are close I would contact recruiting and see what they can do.


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True. We had a couple in ABQ when it first opened up. That and POSSIBLY PHX might be the only places that have enough consistently good weather to do it, though.

Does anyone know if new hire pilots are put in CASS during training so they can go home on weekends?

No. In fact you don't even get fully paid in training

To add, you aren't considered an employee until after your checkride. Unless that has changed.

Actually, that is not correct and it hasn't changed. You ARE an employee after you finish indoc. (How can you be paid ANYTHING is you aren't an employee? You certainly aren't a contractor.)

As to CASS, I am not sure but I will check. I know I was able to jump seat during my initial training but that was before CASS even came into being. I was just a pilot employed by AMF.

You do get "fully paid." Just not as much as Jetlife thinks you should. You are paid the training wage for the hours you are actually in training. You don't get paid an automatic 40 hours per week nor do you get paid for the time you spend at the layover sleeping or watching TV or going out to eat.

Oh sorry, you are paid minimum wage during indoc, which is probably lower now that HQ is based in TX instead of CA. No more burdening the company with having to pay 7 bucks an hour... And it isn't as much as I think anyone should be paid Ted, it is what the industry has recognized as standard practice to attract quality canto dates. Any half way decent company starts you at full benefits day 1, full salary day 1.

amerifright is hurting. they are tdying guys everywhere if you tink you are going to stay in base you are crazy. terrible place to work instruct for 300 hours and go to the regionals not this crap show

Even regionals give you minimum guarantee from day 1. It's a shame that AMF can't get their act together. It wouldn't be a bad place to work if they would pay a fair wage and staff the place correctly.

Well, it is sad, because you have people in management positions that don't see it that way. Just the statement "You are fully paid, just not what JetLife thinks you should" is a perfect sight picture into the mentality of that place, and how it will never change.

frmrbuffdrvr, when does the clock start on when you can get medical benefits. Is it 90 days from DOH or the day you pass your checkride?

On Sept 23rd I got an email from the training department stating that all trainees now get 40 units a week. Even if it's 40 units an hour of 7 bucks an hour, it's an improvement of some sorts.

Even with the raise we aren't paid what we deserve. It costs them more in the long run as pilots wind up not respecting the company. A pilot can do all kinds of things to benefit themselves at the company's cost.

Say what you will but for all the effort and time I put in I should be able to at least provide the essentials of food and shelter for my family on AMF pay alone, but unfortunately it isn't so.


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That's a good start.

If it was up to fmrbuffdrvr everyone would be paid in grey AMF shirts.

Cheapest shirt ever! It fell apart and I'm not buying another one...


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You have to buy them!?

$25 bucks. It was better than wearing that white one. Now I wear neither. Not investing $25 back into this job.


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Cheaply made, not cheap to buy. Was gonna buy 2 of em, but $50?!? That's half a days pay! No thanks.


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Current training pay for E120 FO/PA31/BE99 is $9.00/unit. BE1900/SA227 is $10.58 and E120 CA is $12.50.

You have be at a disadvantage, sir, as you seem to know who I am yet remain anonymous to me.

It isn't just AMF management. It's business in general. See my last response on this post below.


It used to be 90 days from DOH. I checked with HR and was told you become eligible the first day of the second continuous calendar month after you are hired. So if someone is hired in November, they would have to work the full calendar month of December and would be eligible the first of January. (I know, it's confusing to me too.)

I didn't know about the change to 40 units when I did my previous post. But that is correct.

I have never had a job in my life where I was paid what I ultimately thought I deserved. But I was paid what the job was worth. And that is what companies pay for all employees. What the job is worth. And the recent pay raises show that, with the shortage of pilots, the job is becoming more valuable if the company wants to stay in business.

That's reality.

Pilots are entered into the system the day they show up. However, it doesn't become active until the background check comes back. So if you have a former employer who isn't responsive on your employment verification it could delay things.

Which makes sense because CASS allows you to jump seat in the cockpit and they want to ensure you aren't going to do anything there.

There should be a good bit of cold hard reality going on this peak.. Resigning AMF will only be 2nd in my heart to getting my DD214.


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I only know you from your ridiculously ignorant and freakish posts that you do on Facebook, which people then screen capture and send me to show me how crazy their base manager is.


The fact that you can come on here and say that you have just relinquished to the fact that you will never be paid what you think you should, treated in a way that you think you should, just shows what type of person you are. You have no self worth or self esteem, or maybe you literally don't have the ability or intelligence to achieve higher positions than AMF, and that is why you have settled. You, and people like you, are what's wrong with this industry. Luckily you are a very small minority, and the rest of of us know better than to sell ourselves short.

You know what, based on this response, I am glad I DON'T know who you are.

The fact that you can make an assessment of me based on our differences of opinion with no factual knowledge of my background or experience just shows what kind of weight I really need to give to your arguments. Zip.

This thread is better than TV! Jetlife you are spot on.


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Well when you post homophobic and extreme religious views on your FB, you get judged for what you put out on public social media accounts. Your closed off views about people and life, are an excellent view into who you are, and it absolutely coresponds to how you view employees, the career in which you are in, and your thoughts on the industry. It all comes from ignorance and fear. You are so easy to peg it is comical.

I've never met an ACP at AMF who put his pilot's needs before the company. They only take the job to better their resume and get priority on vacation requests. They are the puppets of management! You can't have success when you always have the wrong people in charge.
Cheers

When you run out of substance you go to personal attacks, nice Jetlife.

I've noticed a pattern over the years. When you get Amerihaters riled up, and a couple people agree with them, they instantly claim a majority for their views, and assume the lynch mob mentality.

I don't buy it. All I see is a few people who put their careers on the line to speak their mind. They feel emboldened because their is a pilot shortage, and they can get away with it. In the end, it is the people with good attitudes who get their dream jobs because people refer them. Those who complain all day don't get references.

Well, the majority are voting with their feet, hence the staffing woes. If this was such a great spot we wouldn't hurting so bad.

Aren't you still at AMF own nav? If so your "how to get a dream job 101" isn't worth a hill of beans. The people who get dream jobs are people who aren't ever satisfied with the status quo, and do what is necessary to achieve it. They sure as hell aren't a bunch of p******. Go ahead, argue with jetlife about how to get a good job, but you ring hollow because he is off furthering his career somewhere else and you are fat and happy like a pig in the mud.

I'll say it like I see it, pilot shortage or not. I don't need a bunch of AMF lifers for referrals.




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Can we please get back on topic? The personal comments are so petty... This thread is about Ameriflight, not its employees Facebook posts.