Originally Posted by Luv2Rotate
(Post 743082)
Hey 208,
What situations would that be? Being 135 cargo you don't need an autopilot or an SIC in leu of an inoperable AP. |
Originally Posted by IC ALL
(Post 743018)
EagleJet and Keylime PFT programs?
I don't want to start another thread as there are a few Amflight guys active in this thread, but I'd like to hear Amflight pilot opinions on the below quote from another thread. "The FAA has determined that the SIC pilots that participate in Key Lime's FO program cannot log the flight time. The First Officer program offered by Key Lime Air is not valid for the logging flight time. Key Lime Air has claimed the time is loggable. Key Lime Air has claimed the First Officer Program includes legally loggable SIC time." Any Amflight guys hear anything new on logging PFT time? How would KeyLime's program vary from EagleJet? I believe the Amflight ops specs allow for an F/O as long as the person has gone through company 135 training. This time has traditionally been legal to log with the FAA's blessing. To add another note: Being the largest Part 135 operator in the country, having a huge target on our backs, if the FO program was no good then the FAA would be coming down on us hard. |
AMF SIC Program
You can put anything in your log book that you want to! It's your log book. Heck, mine is nothing more than an aviation diary.
The FAA only requires a log (or detailed record) to document aeronautical experience required for the issuance of a certificate or rating under FAR Part 61 and/or to demonstrate recency of experience. Prospective employer's, on the other hand, may or may not accept SIC flight time recorded in an airplane that doesn't require an SIC. In the past they generally have but with so many guys 'n gals on the street these days the prospective employer can be much more pickey. TransMach |
"Before I answer, I want to see the documentation where the FAA states that KeyLime's SIC program is no good."
So would I. If you search KeyLime for yesterday, you'll find comments made by another user, but he was unable provide evidence. Some of his posts may have been removed... Just wondering if the Amflight crowd had heard anything new. |
I would think even if OpSpecs require an SIC for certain operations, you would legally only be allowed to log the SIC time in those specific conditions, because those are the only conditions in which an SIC is required.
I suppose for the purposes of people looking to get up to 135IFR mins, if you're going to fly 135 PIC for the same operation that you're doing PFT with, you're probably OK. However, if you're trying to use PFT time at some place like KeyLime with the intention of getting up to 135 mins for a different co., like Amflight or something, you're probably going to have a hard time explaining the SIC time in a Chieftan in an interview... I'm not at Amflight, but I would think they'll turn their nose up at many of the countless furloughed 121 guys who are probably applying--many furloughed RJ FOs are going to be jet program grads with low PIC and spoiled by the Magic in the RJs....I would think a CFI with 1200 hours stands a better chance than a RJ FO with 2000 hours, where 1500 of those hours were gear monkey on an RJ |
interview
im still waiting to schedule it, but does anyone have any good info on the interview process in CVG? sim details, hr questions, systems questions...ect. thanks!
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Pm
Find a way I sent you a PM.
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Originally Posted by Luv2Rotate
(Post 741329)
{Almost all aircraft have autopilots}
Question is are they working? 135 cargo doesnt require autopilot for IFR ops. So they can be MEL'd for max of 120 days I believe. Autopilots aren't in the airplanes because of legal requirements. They're there because the company's management wants autopilots in the airplanes. The last fleet to get them is the BE-99s, delayed only because there was no currently viable autopilot STC'd to use in that airplane --so the company had to pay for an STC. That was finally obtained and a Fleet Campaign Directive is currently in progress to equip all the 99s. They're getting GNS-430Ws at the same time. |
Originally Posted by Oldog
(Post 745088)
Yep, almost all of them are working. It sometimes takes time to get parts for some of the older autpilots in the PA-31s, we occasionally have hard-to-troubleshoot problems with the S-Tec autopilots in the Metros, and sometimes autopilots do what autopilots sometimes do: Quit working. So, in a fleet of 170 airplanes, sometimes some are MEL'd. But -- if they're busted, they fix 'em.
Autopilots aren't in the airplanes because of legal requirements. They're there because the company's management wants autopilots in the airplanes. The last fleet to get them is the BE-99s, delayed only because there was no currently viable autopilot STC'd to use in that airplane --so the company had to pay for an STC. That was finally obtained and a Fleet Campaign Directive is currently in progress to equip all the 99s. They're getting GNS-430Ws at the same time. |
Originally Posted by verticalspeed
(Post 237869)
Thinking of going to work for Ameriflight. I'm currently employed by a 135 Canyon tour operator flying 402's. Can anybody give me an idea of what it's like working for the company. Do their aircraft have autopilots? What is a typical day like? Thanks
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anyone know when the next class is scheduled?
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Originally Posted by SIUav8er
(Post 746740)
anyone know when the next class is scheduled?
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Originally Posted by freightdog
(Post 746910)
Soon, our training schedule shows classes for Feb 8 and Mar 8. We just received internal bids for runs/outstations back east. Movement should be happening soon.
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Originally Posted by NZAV8R
(Post 747485)
I'm wondering what's the usual lead time frame between a callback phone interview, in person interview, and class start date?
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Originally Posted by NZAV8R
(Post 747485)
I'm wondering what's the usual lead time frame between a callback phone interview, in person interview, and class start date?
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Originally Posted by SIUav8er
(Post 746740)
anyone know when the next class is scheduled?
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Originally Posted by ImperialxRat
(Post 748193)
They have ran a class every month since I got hired here, and I am sure they will continue to do so. Even though their website may not show they are hiring, they always are. Send in your resume, and call them.
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Can someone PM some contact info. I interviewed back in July but was not offered a position and I would like to try again.
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Originally Posted by FlyingPirate
(Post 748572)
Can someone PM some contact info. I interviewed back in July but was not offered a position and I would like to try again.
Flight department |
Question:
I (finally) meet the mins to apply, however, I am wondering about the training at Ameriflight. I understand they have a great simulator at Burbank, however, once you finish training and get to your base is it " Welcome to Portland! here's the manifest, now off you go", or is there something equating to IOE before they cut you loose on your own? |
There is IOE. My friend used to be a checkairman there.
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Originally Posted by Stratapilot
(Post 748854)
Question:
I (finally) meet the mins to apply, however, I am wondering about the training at Ameriflight. I understand they have a great simulator at Burbank, however, once you finish training and get to your base is it " Welcome to Portland! here's the manifest, now off you go", or is there something equating to IOE before they cut you loose on your own? |
Originally Posted by freightdog
(Post 749019)
Almost all of our training is done on the line now, so there is a much smaller learning curve when you're finally cut loose to go fly NDB approaches on your own!
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NDB approaches? what! you mean they havent all been decommissioned yet? haha
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Originally Posted by Stratapilot
(Post 749026)
Ok Good. I feel better about applying now... It's been a LOOOOOONNG time since I've flown single pilot night IFR, and to be honest, I'm a little nervous about it. Glad to see they don't toss you off a cliff.
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Originally Posted by polymox
(Post 749306)
If that's the case I wouldn't apply until you are comfortable. Spend some time with your favorite CFII or you aren't likely to make it through training, or even the interview sim. They expect you to be a competent IFR pilot, and only have to teach you how to fly their airplane.
Let me rephrase that. It's been a LOOOOONG time since I've flown single pilot night ACTUAL IFR. I'm in Texas so bad weather days are hard to come by. I do approaches and holds all the time. It's not a proficiency issue, its more of a confidence issue. I'm sure once I start doing it on IOE, I'll get more comfortable. |
Originally Posted by Stratapilot
(Post 749360)
Let me rephrase that. It's been a LOOOOONG time since I've flown single pilot night ACTUAL IFR. I'm in Texas so bad weather days are hard to come by. I do approaches and holds all the time. It's not a proficiency issue, its more of a confidence issue. I'm sure once I start doing it on IOE, I'll get more comfortable.
In IOE you have someone sitting next to you. You'll gain confidence once you land after an approach down to mins and there was no one in the right seat. Will it be a bare knuckle experience? Sure it will, it was for us all at one point or another. Just keep the cool hand luke ;) |
Originally Posted by Luv2Rotate
(Post 749371)
Well you should always be on your A game and never be too comfortable shooting approaches more importantly, awareness is key.
In IOE you have someone sitting next to you. You'll gain confidence once you land after an approach down to mins and there was no one in the right seat. Will it be a bare knuckle experience? Sure it will, it was for us all at one point or another. Just keep the cool hand luke ;) Keepin' the cool hand, boss |
It wasn't until I started flying for Ameriflight out of PDX when I actually shot an ILS down to absolute bare minimums; 1800 RVR, VV 100 and at night. That was fun. My legs were pretty weak after that landing.
Once you're able to do it once your confidence skyrockets. You should never relax, but you aren't as worried and able to concentrate on the approach more. |
Originally Posted by undflyboy06
(Post 749408)
It wasn't until I started flying for Ameriflight out of PDX when I actually shot an ILS down to absolute bare minimums; 1800 RVR, VV 100 and at night. That was fun. My legs were pretty weak after that landing.
Once you're able to do it once your confidence skyrockets. You should never relax, but you aren't as worried and able to concentrate on the approach more. |
I hope you guys don't mind me asking the following questions, but I'm wanting to get a better feel for the AMF culture. Is there any pressure from managment to fly during winter storms? We had some fairly severe winter weather roll in earlier in the week in NorCal. Did anyone at AMF in NorCal have to cancel flights because of wx? How severe does the weather have to get before you guys start cancelling trips? Does AMF have specific requirements in their Op Specs in terms of limiting wx criteria, ie. cross wind limits, peak wind gusts over a certain value? Max wind speeds aloft? Turbulence?
ps. If you feel that this info is too specific for the open forum, then please PM me with info. Thanks.
Originally Posted by undflyboy06
(Post 749408)
It wasn't until I started flying for Ameriflight out of PDX when I actually shot an ILS down to absolute bare minimums; 1800 RVR, VV 100 and at night. That was fun. My legs were pretty weak after that landing.
Once you're able to do it once your confidence skyrockets. You should never relax, but you aren't as worried and able to concentrate on the approach more. |
Originally Posted by NZAV8R
(Post 749479)
I hope you guys don't mind me asking the following questions, but I'm wanting to get a better feel for the AMF culture. Is there any pressure from managment to fly during winter storms? We had some fairly severe winter weather roll in earlier in the week in NorCal. Did anyone at AMF in NorCal have to cancel flights because of wx? How severe does the weather have to get before you guys start cancelling trips? Does AMF have specific requirements in their Op Specs in terms of limiting wx criteria, ie. cross wind limits, peak wind gusts over a certain value? Max wind speeds aloft? Turbulence?
ps. If you feel that this info is too specific for the open forum, then please PM me with info. Thanks. VV100 = 10000 ft. Sounds all good to me ;) Whenever I personally have concerns with a flight I have listed all of the reasons why I am uncomfortable and concerned with safely completing a flight or flight segment. I offer alternatives and dispatch and I work to come to a resolution. We have weather limits not only from the aircraft AFM, but also wind limits on taxiing, takeoffs and landings. Our flight department has done a good job of backing up our decisions when it comes to a go/no-go decision. |
AT the same time, its important to CYA. They give you the tools and will respect a reasonable decision, but if you screw up, don't expect them to pat you on the back and say "its okay, don't do it again".
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Originally Posted by Stratapilot
(Post 748854)
Question:
I (finally) meet the mins to apply, however, I am wondering about the training at Ameriflight. I understand they have a great simulator at Burbank, however, once you finish training and get to your base is it " Welcome to Portland! here's the manifest, now off you go", or is there something equating to IOE before they cut you loose on your own? |
Originally Posted by freightdog
(Post 749516)
Management gives us the tools and the wording in our ops specs/ops manual to make the final decision on whether or not a flight goes or doesn't. We've had flights down in SoCal canceled for sure for the latest series of storms coming through the region. Plus, Part 91.3, final PIC authority rests with us pilots.
Whenever I personally have concerns with a flight I have listed all of the reasons why I am uncomfortable and concerned with safely completing a flight or flight segment. I offer alternatives and dispatch and I work to come to a resolution. We have weather limits not only from the aircraft AFM, but also wind limits on taxiing, takeoffs and landings. Our flight department has done a good job of backing up our decisions when it comes to a go/no-go decision. |
HIRED TODAY! anyone else gonna be in the February 8th class?
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Originally Posted by SIUav8er
(Post 749604)
HIRED TODAY! anyone else gonna be in the February 8th class?
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Originally Posted by NZAV8R
(Post 749479)
I hope you guys don't mind me asking the following questions, but I'm wanting to get a better feel for the AMF culture. Is there any pressure from managment to fly during winter storms? We had some fairly severe winter weather roll in earlier in the week in NorCal. Did anyone at AMF in NorCal have to cancel flights because of wx? How severe does the weather have to get before you guys start cancelling trips? Does AMF have specific requirements in their Op Specs in terms of limiting wx criteria, ie. cross wind limits, peak wind gusts over a certain value? Max wind speeds aloft? Turbulence?
ps. If you feel that this info is too specific for the open forum, then please PM me with info. Thanks. VV100 = 10000 ft. Sounds all good to me ;) |
Originally Posted by Oldog
(Post 750063)
Re company culture, they've been in the 135 cargo business 40+ years, consistently make a profit, have 170 airplanes, are VERY visible to the FAA due to their size and wide area of ops, and have a pretty conservative culture. This isn't the company where you're going to hear "If you won't get in that [broken] airplane and fly it, we'll find someone who will" or "We don't care what you think the weather's like, get going." If the trip cannot be completed legally and safely, they don't want you to go. If you CAN complete the trip legally and safely, they expect you use your head, use your training, use your experience, and do it.
That sounds like the kind of company I want to work for. Online application sent. That is the best way right? |
SIUav8er, where did you interview and with whom. i have an interview next month and am looking for some good insight if you can help. thanks!
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