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Old 12-19-2008 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by tbmpilot
SEL and MEL are both in the Airplane Category
Ok, I stand corrected. However, if you are to pursue a Rotorcraft ATP or other class of flying machine... That will require a written test. Happy now?
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Old 12-19-2008 | 02:50 PM
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chipmunk is right. did you have to take another written to add on a multi-engine rating to your private or commercial licensce. an add on is not a licensce just a rating......show me an written book for commercial multi-engine land, instead of just a commercial written book.

btw, i got my atp when i got my types at the airlines
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Old 12-19-2008 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Jetcap37
Any 135.293 or 135.297 can be used for an ATP ride, as long as you have a qualified examiner with you.
I took my ATP checkride the same way too, long long time ago (I think Ford was President) at the tender age of 21. I think the FAA was a bit more relaxed and accomodating back then, seemed like there were a lot more "good ole boys", willing to go out of their way to help pilots out. I even sprung the request for my ATP ride on the FAA Examiner doing my 135 check at the last minute. He merely asked to see my written results (I had brought them with me) and said no problem. Sometimes I really miss the FAA of the 60's and 70's!
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Old 12-20-2008 | 01:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Ewfflyer
I tried to get it while at my old 135 company, but it never worked out to get our POI out during one of my 6mo/12mo checkrides. I did my single-ATP this spring in a Saratoga(free ride) because the local DPE needed to get his supervised ride in, and does this as a favor because he prefers a commercial/ATP types when he's being watched. I plan on doing a multi hopefully soon because we just got in some twins that I should be able to use this Jan/Feb. If not I'll just pay for his time and get it so I can clean up my license
The same thing keeps happening to me. I passed my type ride at 1225 hours so I didn't get an ATP then and I haven't had a check ride since with a DE or POI. I've essentially passed the ATP check ride 3 times without an ATP to show for it. I've already paid too much for my flight training so I don't want to pay to take my ATP in a light twin. I figure it will come eventually at my current job when the FAA has to observe our check airman. The written has been done for a while now. I just have to figure out where I put it.
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Old 12-20-2008 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperD
How did you get your ATP?
You can also likely get an ATP checkride while doing a sim based initial or recurrent training program at places like FSI or Simu-flight. I have a buddy that not too long ago got an ATP checkride in a King Air 200 sim while doing his Part 91 6 month recurrent training. Not sure of what the exact requirements that the Part 142 outfits have for this, but it can be done.
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Old 12-20-2008 | 02:06 PM
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I got my initial ATP in a Cessna 172 30 years ago, and I didn't get the multi ATP until 15 years later when I checked out as Captain at my current airline. The examiner was scratching his head and had to make a few calls trying to figure out which paperwork to fill out, because he had never seen a single engine ATP before. No additional written test.

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Old 12-21-2008 | 06:59 AM
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Since I was jobless and hadnt flown in about a month I went to ATP to get my ATP and it worked out good. It allowed me to improve my resume and get some flight time to fill in the gap in my logbook.
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Old 12-21-2008 | 08:33 AM
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If you have $5k, get a type rating and that will get you your ATP as well. 737 Type seems to be the cheapest.
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Old 12-22-2008 | 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperD
How did you get your ATP?
I was a former military helicopter pilot and T-34 flight instructor. A friend and I took 7 hours worth of lessons in a POS C-310. Having two on board saved us each .3 of transit time to and from the working area plus allowed us the opportunity to learn for "free" by watching the other train. It really enhanced and shortened our total training time.

After our training we drove six hours to an Examiner who gave us each our orals and check ride in nicer C-310 he owned with a partner. All in all it cost about $2500 in 1990.

Having only 9 hours of MEL time even with 5000 turbine (half helo/half T-34) made it difficult to find a job in a recessionist economy following Gulf War I. What finally got the job for me was having the ATP-MEL in my pocket. Everybody needs an edge and that was mine. I paid cash for the training, no loans.
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