Boutique Air - Updated Info
12-08-2018, 02:19 PM
#282
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Originally Posted by colonials13
Is PC-12 SIC time at Boutique loggable towards new certificates and ratings, since the final ruling revising SIC time logging regulations released by the FAA in June?
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12-09-2018, 04:35 AM
#283
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Originally Posted by MaxMar
While I don’t know if BTQ has A062, I wonder how their SICs log time. I would assume that an SIC is required by their GOM, and thus legally required crew per 135.21, however I know with certainty that they use A015 to fly single pilot with autopilot, which means they don’t have a stipulation for SICs in their GOM. There is no ‘multi crew’ Op Spec that existed prior to A062, to my knowledge.
12-09-2018, 05:38 AM
#284
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Originally Posted by MaxMar
While I don’t know if BTQ has A062, I wonder how their SICs log time. I would assume that an SIC is required by their GOM, and thus legally required crew per 135.21, however I know with certainty that they use A015 to fly single pilot with autopilot, which means they don’t have a stipulation for SICs in their GOM. There is no ‘multi crew’ Op Spec that existed prior to A062, to my knowledge.
I checked our op specs and we do have A015. We DO NOT have A062. However, our GOM does state we are NOT allowed to conduct A040 Single Pilot Ops, but since we have an auto pilot we are able to fly single pilot per A015. Seems confusing but wanted to tell you what the GOM says.
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12-09-2018, 05:38 AM
#285
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Originally Posted by MaxMar
While I don’t know if BTQ has A062, I wonder how their SICs log time. I would assume that an SIC is required by their GOM, and thus legally required crew per 135.21, however I know with certainty that they use A015 to fly single pilot with autopilot, which means they don’t have a stipulation for SICs in their GOM. There is no ‘multi crew’ Op Spec that existed prior to A062, to my knowledge.
12-09-2018, 09:32 AM
#286
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Originally Posted by mike sierra
A GOM doesn't make it required crew able to log
12-09-2018, 09:37 AM
#287
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Originally Posted by GearDwn
I checked our op specs and we do have A015. We DO NOT have A062. However, our GOM does state we are NOT allowed to conduct A040 Single Pilot Ops, but since we have an auto pilot we are able to fly single pilot per A015. Seems confusing but wanted to tell you what the GOM says
12-09-2018, 06:56 PM
#288
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Originally Posted by MaxMar
Ahh gotcha okay. We have A015 too, but we can’t ever operate single pilot. We’ve never left an FO when W&B was an issue.
They don't give 135.297(g) rides though, so IFR pax flying is SIC required.
12-09-2018, 07:55 PM
#289
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Originally Posted by dera
Actually you can, even though in practice you don't. SIC is not required crew per the GOM.
They don't give 135.297(g) rides though, so IFR pax flying is SIC required.
They don't give 135.297(g) rides though, so IFR pax flying is SIC required.
12-10-2018, 02:52 AM
#290
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Originally Posted by MaxMar
Hmm I interpret 3.18 on page 3-10 differently.
I don't see it ever being a problem, it's a real SIC job with real duties and not some Caravan "SIC" nonsense.
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