lakehouse

Much agreed, my DZO use to let them sit right seat in our Otter, I personally make jump ops as uncrazy and safe as possible, I am after all a professional. On a positive note I got to jump out of my 206 today =)..and no I wasnt the pilot for that load!

Kilgore Trout

Dude, to be honest I don't quite get what you are saying here. I'd be pretty upset if a twin otter "bombed down" on the runway in front of me in certain conditions. Like if I was flying a standard pattern and was a "weekend warrior" doing what I was supposed to do pattern and radio wise, and the twin otter was'nt.

Based on reading your other thread in the Aviation Law section it seems like you actually fly out of a pretty busy place, maybe only on the weekends I don't know.

Someone else in this thread mentions taking the local pilots out and familiarizing them with your operations. That's cool, but really it's not their problem, it's their field too.

What do you mean you won't put yourself in a situation on your "descent where you could not safely make the runway"? I know of lots of descents to a safe, respectful traffic pattern where I could not make a runway. Basically almost all of them actually. To any runway anywhere.

In your other thread in the aviation law section you mention butting heads with a "tool" who cussed you out on the UNICOM. Yes, that is lame, but maybe he's had a midair, or lost friends to one, and gets upset by something he sees happening often at the airfield you share?

Be careful out there.

Kilgore Trout

Regarding pattern entries, altitudes, and making a runway, I should clarify that a Beaver glides almost as good as a dropped rock. Your mileage may vary.

lakehouse

Ya I get what your saying for sure, I have been flying slighty different since it, but I will never deal with someone that talks on a radio like that, the FSDO told him he talks like that again he is in deep with the FCC and that was only after he yelled at the guy from the FSDO on the phone after they called him. You dont know me, but if you flew here you would know that I am as nice as possible to everyone, and give as much info as possible on the radio. I had 2 people today after yesterday say how great of a job im doing to me on the radio, I do all I can do to give as much info as possible. It is a 1200 Ft pattern ya I enter my 45 at 2K sometimes, and am at 1200 by mid-field at the latest, its all part of my job, I also spend 8 minutes prior going in a nonstop circle over top the airport with the CTAF on comm2, so I am pretty sure I know what I am descneding into, and if not thank GOD I am in a high wing airplane, so if I missed someone in the 10 circles I did out of 11K, and they were not on the CTAF, I might still by a hope of god at least see them UNDER my CESSNA 182/206.

Kilgore Trout

I hear you Rick, and I'm sure you are a safe pilot and try to do your best by others at your field.
I am noone to talk about standard traffic pattern entries by any means as I've done many flights where standard 1000 agl TPA was quite a bit higher than my enroute altitude (yes it was legal).
Also I have flown a whole heck of a lot of nonstandard entries over remote lakes.

I am paranoid about midairs though, just like everybody else. I have had close calls on crummy days far away from any airport, even in southeast AK. Crummy weather forcing VFR opposite direction traffic at each other, and even with widespread position reporting it's amazing how close you can come to hitting somebody else on a day when everything seems right with the world.

I guess all I'm saying is don't be in too big of a hurry.
Stay safe my friend.

lakehouse

Bro you fly the bush, I can never even compare to that, and gods speed and safety to you, and always blue skies!

But trust me, I do all I can to keep 1.my aircraft 2.my jumpers 3. my fellow local pilots safe, and going up and down ever 20 minutes I meet many a bonehead, but I work with everyone. I just want to be safe, have fun, and be safe! I feel you bro and blue skies to you!

Kilgore Trout

Thanks for the compliment Rick. If I can do it I'm sure you can too. No superhuman skills involved except forcing yourself to turn around pretty often.

After a flight, when passengers from outside AK tell me "You're a good pilot", I always tell them "So far".

lakehouse

I feel ya man, being a jump pilot means getting to 11-14K in VFR mins sometimes (or at least a small chunk of the clumb, we never break VFR mins but I have found holes that where not far above the mins), any jump pilot they have climbed through a hole at the VFR bare mins, and dropped through it (never breaking a law, but had a large hole to the ground, well over legal mins and never breaking it), and they mean it, but we go up/down all day, we have seen it all, but we never would break the law, and we know it well........you guys 10 fold us up in the bush, but when it comes to low time, a true jump pilot is a hell of a trooper, if he can truly do it, esp low time, I logged 11 hours/day hobbs, over 3 days, flying 33 hours that fri/sat/sun,and had a 135 hour month. I was then 535 hours total time at that point, all my CPL time is jumpers its what I know, but I will tell you later in my career I sure learned alot! But if there is anyone I REALLY respect its the bush guys!

lakehouse

If that seems like garble, its because I tried to edit it in a rush before bed and made it look like crud, anyway I am super tired, and will fix it tomorrow, good night and blue skies

BushwickBill

Thanks for all of the information. I have always wanted to fly jumpers, jump myself and eventually learn to use a wingsuit.

Currently I live in the Bay Area. Do you guys think there would be any opportunity to fly jumpers part time in the SAC area dzo's? I certainly don't want to take bread off the table of someone working for 25k a year. Please don't get me wrong. It would be nice to find a situation that worked out well for everyone.

I'd like to stay in turbine equipment but I am well aware that beggars can't be choosers in aviation. I'm not poo-pooing a 182 but I'd at least like to have the opportunity to move into turbine at some point. Mostly because I like the way they descend....