I wanted to see if anyone has been to or worked for Eagle Jet Intern. They have multiple programs including time building in BE-1900, Shorts 360, and also have a 500 hr Corporate Pilot deal flying Lear Jets and Falcon 20's. Now i know this is PFT and alot of you are against this, however im just trying to see what experence others have had with this company.

This company also boust that after you complete your 500hr PFT that you can be hired as a FO with their 135. Have any of you actually had this experience. Thanks in advance for your input and ability to STAY ON TOPIC.

 

No Takers?

 

I have no experience with this outfit what so ever but after reading the website I'm very skeptical. I would not pay 35K for an SIC type in either of those planes. They are old and mostly used for freight these days which leads to more non-corporate, cargo jobs. You would have to work there 2+ years to make a living at it. It sounds more like a pilot recruitment outfit trying to turn profits on training rather than operating a 135 outfit. Where are their bases? Where do they fly? Anyone?

 

The Lear and Falcon program is closed, the outfit running it is not working very much. Do good and if they are hiring, you might get hired.

The Navajo, Beech 1900, Metro, BE99 are with Ameriflight. Do good and if they are hiring, you might get hired. Argue amongst yourselves about SIC time in single-pilot aircraft.

Gulfstream also has a SIC pay-to-play program. There it is recognized SIC time. After your time you'll be "furloughed" where if the supply of pay-to-play SIC s ever runs out, you might get hired as a real FO by them.

I hear the pay-to-play programs are quite profitable for their operators, otherwise places like Eagle Jet wouldn't exist.

 

Last time I checked, the BE-1900 and SA227 are not single pilot aircraft. They may be operated single pilot, provided the PIC holds the appropriate single pilot rating for the aircraft.

 

The aircraft certification has nothing to do with the pilot. They are certified under FARs part 23, 25 and so on. The pilots are under part 63. Yes you do need to have the single pilot waiver to fly it by yourself but still two different things.

 

This is from my experience with Eaglejet which was some time ago. I was working as a contract pilot for a charter company sitting rightseat on BE 200's , CE 500 & CJ2's when the customer wanted two pilots insteed of just the one. I was not getting alot of time and wanted to move up to bigger A/C which required two pilots, and more experience on my part. I was refered to Eaglejet by a co-worker who had been in the same situation and was now flying rightseat on the hawkers.

Eaglejet has aggrements with several companies for flight time. I ended up flying the Beech 99 with Ameriflight. The program is expensive. When I went through there were 5 or 6 guys in the program. You have to pay for your hotel or crashpad while in training. You can buddy up and split the cost with other pilots in the program. There were even some crashpads in the area which some used. After training when your on the road you may have to pay for your hotel on the layovers, usually at the company rate. Some routes have a crew crashpad some dont. Some pilots may offer to share a room but they dont have to.

Now this is the important part. You get out of it what you put into it. If you make an effort, work hard and help out, both the pilots and instructors will bend over backwards to help you out. If you act like a jerk they will treat you as a jerk and life will be very very difficult for you.

As I said earlier it is expensive but this is now it broke down for me. I went with the 250 hour program and took about a year flying part time. It penciled out to about $49.00 an hour for turbine time. It was less then half of spliting twin time at my local FBO. You fly in a structured enviroment and into weather and conditions where, if I were just splitting twin time, I wouldn"t even bother driving to the airport. I got alot of actual time flying in the Pacific NW buring the winter. You log sic time when you are hauling freight and can log pic when your part 91 flying empty non rev.

For me it worked out great. I got some real experience and made a couple of great friends who I still keep in touch with.

 

Thanks FR8 for all the good info. The only reason i am looking at this is for time saving. I am a 725 hr CFII who has been instructing part time for 8 years. this has been great, however my time is only creaping up, granted 4 years of that i was in college and didn't fly much at all. right now i work full time (non aviation releated) and have a family so my options are some what limited. If i could find a full time instructing gig i would be in business, however just like everywhere else jobs are scarce.

Might be something to look into, im not sure i want to drop 40K now. Thanks for all the info guys i really appreciate it. if you know of any part or full time flying gigs in North Carolina please PM me.

 

As much as I disagree with these programs and how they operate, but I will completely agree with Fr8's mention of the actual experience you will take away from this. You just can't experience the type of weather and situations you get when flying night freight, period!

 

not sure if its relevant, but:

http://www.pprune.org/interviews-job...-training.html

Imo Eagle-Jet is a despicable operation, paying for TR and paying for line-training and then paying to operate as a first officer? Especially the large-jet programs like 737, a320 etc

P2F is cancer