168TT in Middle Tennessee Area
03-02-2011, 10:48 AM
#61
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Joined APC: Feb 2008
Position: Airline Captain
Posts: 540
Embry-Riddle Class of 2005
Army ROTC scholarship paid for three years of school. I had to cover 1 year, 1 summer, and my flight costs. Totalled up to $80k, but i did a lot of stupid borrowing. If I had kept my nose clean and done it right, would have been mroe like $50k. When I left, it was common to see $110k to finish with a 4 year degree and an MEI. The cost of flight training is getting out of hand everywhere, not just at Riddle. BUt i remember getting a Seneca I off campus for $127/hr wet, while on campus a Seminole was $202/hr wet
Army ROTC scholarship paid for three years of school. I had to cover 1 year, 1 summer, and my flight costs. Totalled up to $80k, but i did a lot of stupid borrowing. If I had kept my nose clean and done it right, would have been mroe like $50k. When I left, it was common to see $110k to finish with a 4 year degree and an MEI. The cost of flight training is getting out of hand everywhere, not just at Riddle. BUt i remember getting a Seneca I off campus for $127/hr wet, while on campus a Seminole was $202/hr wet
03-02-2011, 03:24 PM
#63
Eats shoots and leaves...
Joined APC: Apr 2007
Position: Didactic Synthetic Aviation Experience Provider
Posts: 849
Originally Posted by bcaviator
Man. That's too much for school to make 20k when you're done,
Momma's, don't let your baby's grow up to be airline pilots...
03-15-2011, 02:02 PM
#64
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Joined APC: Jun 2008
Position: Reclined
Posts: 2,168
Originally Posted by dlb4a
Here is the breakdown from my resume.
Total………………………...168
Diamond Star 20…………..1.0 (spin training for CFI)
Pilot in Command…….…67
Diamond Star 40……….121.8
Single Engine…………….154.8
Piper Arrow 28R…………..26.8
Piper Seminole 44………..13.2
Multi Engine……………….13.2
(logbook has 33.8 sim hours)
At Middle Tennessee State University the flight school's training is predominately all proficiency based. If one can get into the aircraft and show that they can handle the regs's requirements then they can advanced; however we do have an intensive syllabus which includes: Private Pilot Cert, Instru Rating, Comm. Cert, Multi, CFI, CFII, MEI, High Performance, and Tail Wheel.
I may not have a load of experience flying airplanes but I am certain I can handle a greater difficultly level of flying than you gentlemen give me credit for. My initial CFI checkride is Dec. 21, 2010 (next Tuesday).
Again, If anyone has helpful or considerate information to pass along, I would greatly appreciate it.
http://www.mtsu.edu/aerospace (For those who need HARD facts.)
Total………………………...168
Diamond Star 20…………..1.0 (spin training for CFI)
Pilot in Command…….…67
Diamond Star 40……….121.8
Single Engine…………….154.8
Piper Arrow 28R…………..26.8
Piper Seminole 44………..13.2
Multi Engine……………….13.2
(logbook has 33.8 sim hours)
At Middle Tennessee State University the flight school's training is predominately all proficiency based. If one can get into the aircraft and show that they can handle the regs's requirements then they can advanced; however we do have an intensive syllabus which includes: Private Pilot Cert, Instru Rating, Comm. Cert, Multi, CFI, CFII, MEI, High Performance, and Tail Wheel.
I may not have a load of experience flying airplanes but I am certain I can handle a greater difficultly level of flying than you gentlemen give me credit for. My initial CFI checkride is Dec. 21, 2010 (next Tuesday).
Again, If anyone has helpful or considerate information to pass along, I would greatly appreciate it.
http://www.mtsu.edu/aerospace (For those who need HARD facts.)
sounds like little more than a license mill operation... and the hubris highlights the inexperience....
call us back after you've almost killed yourself once or twice from stupidity and not yet knowing what it is that you didn't know....
so, you'll be teaching others with a whopping 68 hours of PIC... one more school I'd never let family or friends go to...
03-15-2011, 02:18 PM
#65
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Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: the right side
Posts: 1,373
I just wanted to point out, there are jobs out there for really low time pilots. May not be flying something glamorous or in a location you want to be in, but there are jobs. Just be persistent and willing to travel/move.
03-18-2011, 01:39 PM
#66
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Joined APC: Jan 2007
Position: Chair Flying
Posts: 257
Originally Posted by Grumble
Middle Tenn State.... now accepting refugees from Embry Riddle.
168TT, comm multi, and CFI ride next? You do your entire program in a sim or something? You're just competitive enough to keep paying for flight time.
168TT, comm multi, and CFI ride next? You do your entire program in a sim or something? You're just competitive enough to keep paying for flight time.
hahaha.
03-18-2011, 06:06 PM
#67
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Joined APC: Mar 2011
Posts: 115
Like a couple guys said, it's all networking and who you know more than anything else - I graduated early and went to instructing...ran into a former instructor of mine when she came in for a couple hours of multi time before an interview, caught up a little bit with her and she gave me info for the job she was leaving (a turbo 206 gig). A few phone calls later I was flying the 206 which six months later turned into a C90. Three months later it went to a management company, I got absorbed into the roster. 3 years later I'm running the department.
03-23-2011, 09:04 PM
#68
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Joined APC: Jul 2009
Position: C525
Posts: 62
I have to agree with everyone that says, "networking is key." I graduated from MTSU in '07. I had worked line at an FBO in Smyrna for the 4 years of college and got some good turbine time out of it. I moved home and got a job in dispatch at a well known regional airline to pay off student loans. I then got my CFI and II instructed for about 6 months when my original instructor called, after 5 years of not flying together, and needed a 3rd person (me) to fly multiple SR22s in a corporate role. The 3 of us are now flying 5 SR22s, TBM 850, TBM700, King Air 200, and Citation Mustang. Don't have enough time yet to fly as PIC in the turbine birds.
So all of that to say, look at getting a job at an FBO that services turbine aircraft. It will help with bills when the instructing gets slow. It will get you in the cockpit of some cool rides and if you are smart you can get your self paid. Just know that you are worth good money. Do not sell your self short.
Good job on the CFI and good luck on the next gig.
So all of that to say, look at getting a job at an FBO that services turbine aircraft. It will help with bills when the instructing gets slow. It will get you in the cockpit of some cool rides and if you are smart you can get your self paid. Just know that you are worth good money. Do not sell your self short.
Good job on the CFI and good luck on the next gig.
06-04-2011, 06:52 AM
#69
Thank you!
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Joined APC: Dec 2010
Position: Hotel
Posts: 41
CFII CheckRide
Thanks for all of the advice that was given with the form. My first student is progressing right along 
Still some challenges here and there but I am confident the student will smooth them out (had a few scares on landing and another with emergency engine out).
I recently passed my CFII checkride. Which I must say was the funniest checkride I have done. It felt easy bc it was natural just to get up there and talk about what I am doing. Besides I really enjoy flying needles...
Thanks all!
Still some challenges here and there but I am confident the student will smooth them out (had a few scares on landing and another with emergency engine out).I recently passed my CFII checkride. Which I must say was the funniest checkride I have done. It felt easy bc it was natural just to get up there and talk about what I am doing. Besides I really enjoy flying needles...
Thanks all!
05-08-2015, 07:22 AM
#70
Thank you!
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Joined APC: Dec 2010
Position: Hotel
Posts: 41
Originally Posted by gilz16
This folks.....this is an incredible post! we need more ppl helping others...
The only advice I can add is: Do NOT let anyone bring you down, if they say you cant, you wont, prove them wrong! Life is about perseverance and it is commitment, hard work, patience and endurance.
The only advice I can add is: Do NOT let anyone bring you down, if they say you cant, you wont, prove them wrong! Life is about perseverance and it is commitment, hard work, patience and endurance.
I fly for a mainline carrier. It's 2015. 5 years from 168TT to a mainline carrier.
Stop attempting to kill dreams. For those who encouraged and offered constructive advice - I thank you.
Privileged and honored.
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