skylanejockey

Saw this on the orange site today. Good way for someone to log multi time.


Barr Air Patrol

Pipeline Patrol Observer position (multi-engine) on and off-shore. Multi-engine rating required.

Duties include assisting captain with preflight, in-flight, patrol, and post-flight duties in addition to performing safety-specific tasks during the flight. Patrol duties will include contacting the customer via telephone to communicate sightings, taking notes of sightings during the patrol, and performing aircraft tasks as delegated by the captain. Aircraft are light twin Vulcanair P68's. Patrols are performed at 500' agl in complex airspace in a variety of weather conditions. Schedule is approximately 25 flight hours with additional ground duties. Flights are conducted when conditions allow, including weekends and holidays if necessary. The successful candidate will be flexible and professional, willing to participate actively in the Crew Resource Management and safety aspects of the job. Local candidates highly preferred, no relocation assistance is provided. Position is located at KCXO, Conroe, Tx.

Pay starts at $30,000 salary for licensed pilots. Benefits include medical, dental and vision insurance for the employee in addition to paid time off. When applying, ref: Climbto350.com. NO PHONE CALLS will be accepted.

You can apply on their website at www.Barrairpatrol.com

NMuir

Does the Vulcanair P68 require a SIC?

agayo70

I do not think the aircraft requires SIC...its about 5000lb MTOW, if I remember...depends on the type of operation though.

JohnBurke

Only if the SIC is sole manipulator of the controls, or if engaging in simulated instrument and acting as PIC.

Otherwise, no go on the logging of multi time.

Nobody's playing simulated instrument while doing powerline patrol, especially if the purpose of the SIC is to take notes of observations of the ground.

The SIC will be acting as sole manipulator of the controls? Doesn't sound like it from the description posted.

How does the SIC log multi time?

skylanejockey

P68 doesn't require an SIC, however under Part 91, the right seat pilot can log PIC time during dead head legs.

JohnBurke

You're talking about making the SIC sole manipulator of the controls during the "dead legs?"

You get a lot of "dead head legs" in your powerline patrol?

skylanejockey

It's pipeline patrol. There is no SIC in the aircraft because the aircraft doesn't require it. The job title is patrol observer. The left seat pilot is PIC during the actual patrolling of the pipeline. There are deadhead legs between patrols that if multi rated, the patrol observer can take the controls and fly, thus logging the time.

FlyingSlowly

It depends...Barr probably wants rated observers as a step toward being able to offer PIC positions...cheaper job training that way. The PIC can likely do everything himself, just makes it a little easier (and safer) with an observer. Most pipeline companies don't want to mess with low time pilots. Three quarters of what you do has nothing to do with flying the airplane.

I work for a single-pilot (no observer, except during training) pipeline operator. Only got the job because I put in hundreds of hours of unpaid training and the boss was really in need of someone local and reliable.

Barr says don't waste their time if you have less than 1500TT on their website. It's a great way to build time...And pipeline operators know it and look elsewhere for pilot candidates under most circumstances. I know my boss wants to find people in the upper-40s to mid-60s age group with no desire to fly for the airlines.

Prpilot23

What are the minimums to apply? Thanks!

FlyingSlowly

Let me be clear (I'm not sure if I was in the first post)...I do not work for Barr, what I said was my best guess with pipeline patrol experience from a smaller operator.

Barr is probably one of the biggest operators. There are lots of small operators out there. It's a niche industry, and there aren't tons of pipelines in most geographical areas.