CFI123

We were told at an interview that everyone will go to KPHL E145. Not sure if they still offer Dash 8.

Are most trips late starts/ early finish for a jet? Any opportunity to bid for overnight flights or day trips once in a while?

MantisToboggan

Looks like you came from Wisconsin too. Would an extra two months have made you mad enough to post on facebook and have that be your introduction to the PDT pilot group?

They'll bypass jet FOs until they get enough new hire jet FOs trained that they're comfortable with the staffing of it

MantisToboggan

It seems that most jets trips start and end at commutable times. But never rely on schedules at this company staying where you want them for long.

I've had a couple two day trips recently but only bc scheduling modified a four day for one reason or another

mm1989

Not exactly sure what your getting at here. If your referencing the comments the guy was making yesterday he was out of line in my opinion.

MantisToboggan

I was just looking for an opinion from someone in a similar situation. My point is just that it looks bad to complain about an upgrade taking 8 months rather than 6 months, especially when the majority of the pilot group waited 6 years for an upgrade

MKUltra

Is give the guy a pass.. I think he is stuck in training as a new hire.. he is a retread from several companies ave seems bitter... that being said there is nothing to be complaining about.. upgrades will continue to be fast.. they wouldn't be asking to be notified of you have 100 hours left as allowing you to bid for the upgrade.. they need captains.. many captains.. once the new sim is up and running and they unlock more soe instructors everything will go much quicker.

l2flare

I haven't read the fb post so I can't comment on what was said. But here's my 2.

The time of upgrade isn't the issue. The issue that those of us who made this lateral move are on the sidelines watching others who started after us get awards which we could have held.

Is an 8 month upgrade bad? Obviously no. But losing 2 months of CA pay and PIC time, when people who were hired later are going to upgrade class on Monday, is going to upset people who jumped ship to come here.

There is also no guarantee that the next bid will not be handled in the same manner that the previous one was. You say 2 months but neither you, I, or most likely even the company knows that. ie they could continue to award upgrades only to dash pilots and then just intentionally leave CA vacancies unfilled. This means for 145 new hires with previous 121, we don't upgrade and we aren't paid bypass. Could be 2 months or 4 or 6, without knowing every pilots TT and what they want to bid it's a complete guess.

All of us have put our time in at the regionals and making lateral moves come with risks. Upgrade train derails? that sucks but that's a risk you took. Get stuck on bypass? lame, but at least your getting paid. Out of seniority upgrade awards without compensation for those jumped? that doesn't really sit right.

BeechPilot33

I was under the impression that if you have the required time and put in a bid for Captain and it is awarded to someone junior to you, you would be paid bypass pay when the junior person finished upgrade training.

I would talk to some of the higher ups and get their take on what the rules are.

Datsun

What average monthly credit are folks making over here (ca and fo)? Are you still offering 300% open time?

Lvlng4Spd

I average 120+ credit monthly. Last month was 158 hours.