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Old 12-07-2017, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Newstick189 View Post
We have 655 pilots on the roster currently (including those in training and on leave).

That's more than enough for the 58 jets or whatever we are supposed to be getting. (According to Lyle from CUT).

I wouldn't doubt to see our hiring go down to what is necessary for attrition at this point. 11 seems to be about the right number.
Full through April. Capacity for 40/mo after that. Going for capacity
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Old 12-07-2017, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by evrbodysmugglin View Post
Full through April. Capacity for 40/mo after that. Going for capacity
I'm not sure what you're saying.

We need to transition 127 ROA pilots from the Dash to the EMB at a rate of 10 pilots per month at a minimum. Current training capacity is approximately 22-25 per month based on simulator availability and SOE check airmen.

I wouldn't doubt if they dialed back the amount of new hires for the foreseeable future. We have a 5 month backlog for callbacks to systems as it is.

If we truly intend to end at 54-58 jets we really only need 580 pilots. At 655 we're just building a robust reserve.
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Old 12-07-2017, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Newstick189 View Post
I'm not sure what you're saying.

We need to transition 127 ROA pilots from the Dash to the EMB at a rate of 10 pilots per month at a minimum. Current training capacity is approximately 22-25 per month based on simulator availability and SOE check airmen.

I wouldn't doubt if they dialed back the amount of new hires for the foreseeable future. We have a 5 month backlog for callbacks to systems as it is.

If we truly intend to end at 54-58 jets we really only need 580 pilots. At 655 we're just building a robust reserve.
Most Dash captains are going to flow before they have to transition to the jet. Others would be on it a couple of mo the before they flow
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Old 12-07-2017, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Newstick189 View Post
I'm not sure what you're saying.

We need to transition 127 ROA pilots from the Dash to the EMB at a rate of 10 pilots per month at a minimum. Current training capacity is approximately 22-25 per month based on simulator availability and SOE check airmen.

I wouldn't doubt if they dialed back the amount of new hires for the foreseeable future. We have a 5 month backlog for callbacks to systems as it is.

If we truly intend to end at 54-58 jets we really only need 580 pilots. At 655 we're just building a robust reserve.
Backlog is now down to as low as 2 months for some.

Right now it's pretty clear the most opportunities for flying and aircraft will be given to the regionals that can hire the most pilots. In order to stay competitive we will have to continue hiring at or near max capacity.

56 is likely just a year-end goal set for next year. I think it is realistic to say if we can staff them, AA will continue sending over 145s well past the 56 mark.
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Old 12-07-2017, 05:51 PM
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Backlog is now down to as low as 2 months for some.

Right now it's pretty clear the most opportunities for flying and aircraft will be given to the regionals that can hire the most pilots. In order to stay competitive we will have to continue hiring at or near max capacity.

56 is likely just a year-end goal set for next year. I think it is realistic to say if we can staff them, AA will continue sending over 145s well past the 56 mark.
Being someone that just completed training and with multiple friends behind me, I wish I knew which part of the thin air you pulled the "down to 2 months" out of. Maybe between indoc and systems its getting shorter and close to 2 months for the senior Sept guys because of no indoc class in August, but you are not taking into your calculations the delay between LOE and SOE. Most guys that started SOE in Oct and Nov (like me) sat for 2 more months after LOE. Scheduling is having to work with all of us to make sure we get our cycles and consolidate in time for the 150 day mark, not even trying to hit the 120 day mark anymore.
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Old 12-07-2017, 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by flybywp View Post
Backlog is now down to as low as 2 months for some.

Right now it's pretty clear the most opportunities for flying and aircraft will be given to the regionals that can hire the most pilots. In order to stay competitive we will have to continue hiring at or near max capacity.

56 is likely just a year-end goal set for next year. I think it is realistic to say if we can staff them, AA will continue sending over 145s well past the 56 mark.
Coming from someone who just passed the 7 month mark in training, that is really stretching the truth unless you are going into the training department.

You do realize where we are getting the 145's from, right? Envoy is only going to give up as many jets as they get 175's. They have 2200 pilots on the roster and they are losing 1 CRJ700 to PSA per month and 2 EMB 145 to PDT per month, increasing to 3 in 2018. Contrary to popular belief, we are not getting these jets from the desert, they are coming from Envoy.

Eventually that will need to stop because there simply wont be enough aircraft for their staffing level. That is of course unless they increase the amount of 175's per month or they receive or we start receiving aircraft from another source.

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Most Dash captains are going to flow before they have to transition to the jet. Others would be on it a couple of mo the before they flow
That is false considering the lion's share of the ROA Dash 8 guys have either bypassed the flow or are a 2014 hire date or more junior.
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That is false considering the lion's share of the ROA Dash 8 guys have either bypassed the flow or are a 2014 hire date or more junior.[/QUOTE]

A good portion were hired 2011-2012. But sure there were some that did bypass the flow
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Originally Posted by 123494 View Post
That is false considering the lion's share of the ROA Dash 8 guys have either bypassed the flow or are a 2014 hire date or more junior.
A good portion were hired 2011-2012. But sure there were some that did bypass the flow[/QUOTE]

Yes.. many of those that bypassed the flow are retiring shortly. The other dash ca are flowing shortly or will transition.

Some will not go to training and just get paid out prior to flow or retirement.

The whole dessert thing is true but that is the 140s and envoy is taking them right now but we are approvedfor the 140s.
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