I honestly don't think anything is going to change. The status quo will continue on as normal. People talk a lot on the line and complain, but little doggies can bark all day long however if there is no bite then the company won't care. I really don't see attrition increasing as a result of the "no" vote. Most pilots here are sold on the idea of "I'll just deal with all the PDT shinanigans until I flow" mentality. The only way I see it getting better for the pilot group is if PDT is unable to fill new hire classes and if the current pilot group stops picking up all the open flying. Money talks, if PDT is forced to cancel flights due to not having crews then that will set off alarms higher up that something needs to change. But if all the open time continues to be picked up then why would management care about us at all? I.e. status quo as usual. Just my 2 cents for what it's worth.

 

Pilot attrition had picked up significantly.. mostly on people here 0 to 2 years.. even the seniority list is updated we still know shortly.. the company is trying to come up with some creative ways to ro retain these folks... don't get excited as they are silly solutions.

We will see next week the size of the nh class this month.. but recruiting is scrambling... word is out... piedmont is not the place to come to.. unless you live in base... don't want too fluffy much for first year... approximately 100 hours in the first year.. and you don't mind only 11 to 14 days in your bed.

 

I know several folks on the FO and Captain side of things who took other jobs after the TA came out after waiting to see the improvements and being entirely underwhelmed. These jobs include lateral moves to regionals with better pay and QOL, like Republic.

 

I see a merger with Envoy sooner rather then later.

 

More likely AA will go after scope relief from mainline pilots and continue to whipsaw the WO against each other to keep wages lower for multiple labor groups.

 

Piedmont can’t run their operation. Thus they’ll just transfer Piedmont’s only asset (pilots) to Envoy to help staffing over there going forward. Then if they still want 3 WO’s to whipsaw they’ll go buy mesa.

 

A merger down the line only makes sense - especially when these 145s run out of useful life. I know they will keep them as long as possible, but they can't fly them forever. Heck, after all these forthcoming write-ups for doing 146kts with flaps 45 none of these planes will ever be out of mx.

 

What’s the MX write up issue? On the flaps 45? Haven’t flown the plane in a long time and I’m forgetting what the speeds were!

 

Flaps 45 speed is 145. Vapp is often very near that speed. Now I guess the company wants any over speed to be written up. I guess it used to be you could exceed the speed momentarily with no harm no foul.

 

You guys think merger, but I think a long winded shutdown is more likely with some soft landings program at envoy.

There’s significant savings by keeping the majority of the seniority pools at both airlines under 6 years old, a merger might bring that number up a few years.

Coming to Piedmont is very risky in both the short term and long term, relatively speaking in comparison to PSA and ENY.