New TA is out.
#181
Unfortunately this. Tons of valuable shared experience wasted. I remember early on it was also a struggle to get certain MX records. One day we had a question about a preflight inspection item and MX response was "we aren't sure, still waiting on complete engine records from Envoy." I understand the jaded animousity, but it put us in a bit of a spot.
#182
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One of the basics tenants of any SLI is no leapfrogging within a list. At the constructive date of the merger a snapshot of lists is taken. Each list is then stovepiped placing each pilot in the highest paying seat their seniority will hold on a constructive basis. Those lists are then used in the actual SLI integration. DEC pilots would be slotted no differently than if they were hired as copilots. Every merger I am aware of starts with the above as the first step so DEC pilots present no obstacle.
#183
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I think many of Piedmont’s current issues are typical when theres a new aircraft on property and folks are forced to re-invent flying it.
Merger... hah... sure long as SLI is straight DOH (and then by age on dates where the two groups have the same dates of hire) so I can hold 175 DFW and be one of them real jet pilots
. Irving is very cosmopolitan...
Merger... hah... sure long as SLI is straight DOH (and then by age on dates where the two groups have the same dates of hire) so I can hold 175 DFW and be one of them real jet pilots
. Irving is very cosmopolitan...
#184
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From: Gear slinger
Even though PDTs TA was “the best that could be done” because “the industry doesn’t support pay increases at this time”, the non-union Student Council at Skywest got $14.50/hr increase on the FO side and $8-10/hr above the best rates the Union could negotiate upto on the Captain Side... all without a plethora of concessions.
By 2022, they’ll be almost $17/hr ahead on the FO side and $15/hr on the CA side in pay rates alone.
https://uploadfiles.io/hk4xw
https://uploadfiles.io/3scg5
With this TA from Skywest and XJTs new passed TA, it Looks like the AA Wholly Owned regionals are officially rock bottom in the industry pay wise... standby for the recruitment team to struggle to fill single digit new hire classes again like they did in the 2015/2016 timeframe.
By 2022, they’ll be almost $17/hr ahead on the FO side and $15/hr on the CA side in pay rates alone.
https://uploadfiles.io/hk4xw
https://uploadfiles.io/3scg5
With this TA from Skywest and XJTs new passed TA, it Looks like the AA Wholly Owned regionals are officially rock bottom in the industry pay wise... standby for the recruitment team to struggle to fill single digit new hire classes again like they did in the 2015/2016 timeframe.
#185
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Even though PDTs TA was “the best that could be done” because “the industry doesn’t support pay increases at this time”, the non-union Student Council at Skywest got $14.50/hr increase on the FO side and $8-10/hr above the best rates the Union could negotiate upto on the Captain Side... all without a plethora of concessions.
By 2022, they’ll be almost $17/hr ahead on the FO side and $15/hr on the CA side in pay rates alone.
https://uploadfiles.io/hk4xw
https://uploadfiles.io/3scg5
With this TA from Skywest and XJTs new passed TA, it Looks like the AA Wholly Owned regionals are officially rock bottom in the industry pay wise... standby for the recruitment team to struggle to fill single digit new hire classes again like they did in the 2015/2016 timeframe.
By 2022, they’ll be almost $17/hr ahead on the FO side and $15/hr on the CA side in pay rates alone.
https://uploadfiles.io/hk4xw
https://uploadfiles.io/3scg5
With this TA from Skywest and XJTs new passed TA, it Looks like the AA Wholly Owned regionals are officially rock bottom in the industry pay wise... standby for the recruitment team to struggle to fill single digit new hire classes again like they did in the 2015/2016 timeframe.
#186
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Yes there will be about a 6-9 month lag from when expressjet and Skywest’s TA take effect. Then we may see AAG relent.


