Originally Posted by MKUltra (Post 2688259)

I know a lot of people have that theory.. right how we are only staffing 46 planes a day.. and we're barely holding the line daily... having 58 line planes with 4 spares is a lofty goal.

Also we have a huge deficit of first officers that do not have the 1000 hours to upgrade... this is a major problem right now.. agreed worse in six months

When i first joined pdt we operated 42 dashes... we haven't grown much since..

Right now phl there is 128 lines plus the bup lines and only 8 reserve pilots...

Flying is often covered by sim instructors still...

Seriously .. there is still a ton of uncovered flying that american needs covered..

Know your worth in the market right now.

Originally Posted by Otterbox (Post 2688379)

You should tell that to the MEC... they’re under the impression that if they get the concessionary extension language etc removed that Envoy pay rates are a compelling enough reason that the TA should be passed with no problem...

Originally Posted by 67Creek (Post 2688474)

Impossible now, we long missed the boat.. don't you remember? The company isn't coming back to the table until 2021. We HAD to pass that TA or we're screwed for 3 years!!


Who is our union working for?


Time for a new team, I think.

Originally Posted by PDTFlyer (Post 2688517)

New team?!? Sounds like a mutiny!!

Originally Posted by Newstick189 (Post 2650142)

It’s a little unfair to compare a section VI negotiation where the company has to bargain in good faith with the association until an agreement is made versus a mid-term negotiation where we basically are in a one and done situation.

Originally Posted by PDTFlyer (Post 2690344)

Considering recruiting has taken a nose dive, negotiations won’t really be negotiations, it’ll be more like the company comes to the pilot group and offers QOL improvements to make PDT attractive again. No section anything required. Let’s see how things play out.... Present union got their chance and the failed TA is what we were offered.

Originally Posted by MantisToboggan (Post 2690351)

The point is, the union offered this poor TA and ALWAYS followed it with "this is all we will get. If we vote no, status quo is what you will get." So not only did they get us a bad deal, they lied to us to try to get us to accept it. Many of us saw right through it, clearly some did not.