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67Creek 10-02-2018 06:50 PM


Originally Posted by flysooner9 (Post 2684802)
Going to get E-175 options as well.


It's already in our contract.

Otterbox 10-03-2018 06:51 AM


Originally Posted by Newstick189 (Post 2684771)
Well, the union is meeting with the company tomorrow...

Probably gonna get them endeavor rates now I bet, plus a 200% increase in flow.

More likely the MEC will team up with the company and eliminate triple premium all together and flow will stay the same 😉.

MantisToboggan 10-03-2018 07:45 AM


Originally Posted by Newstick189 (Post 2684771)
Well, the union is meeting with the company tomorrow...

Probably gonna get them endeavor rates now I bet, plus a 200% increase in flow.

Def voted yes

123494 10-03-2018 08:44 AM

Was just reading through Expressjet's TA. Substantial pay raises, holiday pay, improved retirement contributions, etc. 90% voted yes. These are the kind of improvements we should be seeing.

MKUltra 10-04-2018 07:07 AM

Release #: XJT 18.02
September 27, 2018

ExpressJet Pilots Vote to Ratify New Collective Bargaining Agreement

WASHINGTON, D.C.—The pilots of ExpressJet Airlines, represented by the Air Line Pilots Association, Int’l (ALPA) have ratified a new three-year contract that includes the market-rate wages, stronger job security, and enhanced work rules sought by the pilots. Of the 87 percent of ExpressJet pilots who voted, 90 percent voted in favor of the deal.

“Going into negotiations for Contract 2018, we used input from pilots, survey data and pilot representatives to identify our primary objectives and strategy,” said First Officer Joe Mauro, chairman of the ExpressJet ALPA Master Executive Council. “Our overriding objectives therefore were to improve quality of life by enhancing our already industry-leading work rules, maintain our current robust benefit structure, and increase our compensation to levels that are more in line with the industry and commensurate with our level of operational performance.”

The combined effect of the increased pay rates and an earned quarterly override payment is approximately $14,000 to $15,000 of additional annual compensation for every pilot, placing ExpressJet pilots near the top of the regional industry.

“This contract recognizes the continued dedication and professionalism of ExpressJet pilots and provides management with the financial foundation to support future growth with the addition of dual-class aircraft,” said Mauro. “Everything in this contract was negotiated with a written contingency that guarantees that we will immediately return to negotiations if United Airlines does not award at least 20 70-seat EMB175s to ExpressJet by January 2019. That contingency also mandates that we continue working under the gains we achieved in contract.”

Flying as United Express, ExpressJet is based in College Park, Ga., and is a wholly-owned subsidiary of SkyWest, Inc.

Founded in 1931, ALPA is the world’s largest pilot union, representing more than 60,000 pilots at 34 airlines in the United States and Canada, including the nearly 1,100 pilots at ExpressJet. Visit the ALPA website at alpa.org or follow us on Twitter @WeAreALPA.

Theaveragejoker 10-04-2018 07:56 AM

Hearing from the XJet forum that this was their "pass it or we shut you down" contract as well. Which makes ours look even worse in comparison given that we are supposedly doing well.

Otterbox 10-04-2018 08:16 AM


Originally Posted by Theaveragejoker (Post 2685820)
Hearing from the XJet forum that this was their "pass it or we shut you down" contract as well. Which makes ours look even worse in comparison given that we are supposedly doing well.

The non union TA really put ALPA negotiated efforts to shame... ALPA could just refund the pilot group their dues paid and the pilots would get most of the pay raise they were able to negotiate in exhange for concessions...

Apparently the Piedmont TA votedown was noticed... heard from multiple sources that the company came back to the union to ask what it would have taken to get a yes vote...

havick206 10-04-2018 08:24 AM


Originally Posted by Otterbox (Post 2685837)
The non union TA really put ALPA negotiated efforts to shame... ALPA could just refund the pilot group their dues paid and the pilots would get most of the pay raise they were able to negotiate in exhange for concessions...

Apparently the Piedmont TA votedown was noticed... heard from multiple sources that the company came back to the union to ask what it would have taken to get a yes vote...

The problem going forward will be the PSA pilot group selling their souls. Hopefully they don’t cave for crumbs going forward.

All three WO’s are tied at the hip for negotiating.

chrisreedrules 10-04-2018 09:58 AM


Originally Posted by havick206 (Post 2685844)
The problem going forward will be the PSA pilot group selling their souls. Hopefully they don’t cave for crumbs going forward.

All three WO’s are tied at the hip for negotiating.

Huh? We’re just as frustrated with our current situation over here at PSA. I have a hard, “line in the sand” for what I would vote yes or no on given what I know right now. But things have been changing seemingly month by month so we’ll see what happens when the time comes... which consequently won’t be until summer 2019 at the earliest.

FlyyGuyy 10-04-2018 02:15 PM


Originally Posted by havick206 (Post 2685844)
The problem going forward will be the PSA pilot group selling their souls. Hopefully they don’t cave for crumbs going forward.

All three WO’s are tied at the hip for negotiating.

this is such old nonsense at this point the PSA group that voted in garbage for the rest of us is essentially gone. we are flowing 2011 new hires here, by this winter 2013 hires will be going. think about it, the 2012 people who could vote will be gone before december then we have maybe 50 lifers here. there is 1850ish pilots here now opposed to the 480 back in 2013.

if your insinuation is that the newer people who had nothing to do with that vote are going to vote garbage in then we need to watch all three of the HOs by that logic.


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