Unfortunately this. Tons of valuable shared experience wasted. I remember early on it was also a struggle to get certain MX records. One day we had a question about a preflight inspection item and MX response was "we aren't sure, still waiting on complete engine records from Envoy." I understand the jaded animousity, but it put us in a bit of a spot.

One of the basics tenants of any SLI is no leapfrogging within a list. At the constructive date of the merger a snapshot of lists is taken. Each list is then stovepiped placing each pilot in the highest paying seat their seniority will hold on a constructive basis. Those lists are then used in the actual SLI integration. DEC pilots would be slotted no differently than if they were hired as copilots. Every merger I am aware of starts with the above as the first step so DEC pilots present no obstacle.

Our current seniority list isn't even by straight DOH. Anyone hired after 2011 could be done straight DOH but those 80s and 90s guys are all jumbled up.

Even though PDTs TA was “the best that could be done” because “the industry doesn’t support pay increases at this time”, the non-union Student Council at Skywest got $14.50/hr increase on the FO side and $8-10/hr above the best rates the Union could negotiate upto on the Captain Side... all without a plethora of concessions.

By 2022, they’ll be almost $17/hr ahead on the FO side and $15/hr on the CA side in pay rates alone.

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With this TA from Skywest and XJTs new passed TA, it Looks like the AA Wholly Owned regionals are officially rock bottom in the industry pay wise... standby for the recruitment team to struggle to fill single digit new hire classes again like they did in the 2015/2016 timeframe.

The cycle continues. When we can’t fill classes anymore, the wholly owned’s will increase the pay rate or new hire bonus. Then we’ll be the place to go again

Yes there will be about a 6-9 month lag from when expressjet and Skywest’s TA take effect. Then we may see AAG relent.

But but we have an industry leading flow....:rolleyes:

Well, the union is meeting with the company tomorrow...

Probably gonna get them endeavor rates now I bet, plus a 200% increase in flow.

Piedmont's flow will be at 10/month by 2023- mark my words. Laugh and make fun if you want...

Going to get E-175 options as well.