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mfflyer 09-05-2018 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by Otterbox (Post 2668585)
I know several folks on the FO and Captain side of things who took other jobs after the TA came out after waiting to see the improvements and being entirely underwhelmed. These jobs include lateral moves to regionals with better pay and QOL, like Republic.

I was in a May Indoc class with PDT. Didn't have a great experience at all for indoc, lots of one person saying this, another person says that ,no communication from the company and phone calls from a CP when you asked training too many times for an update. The TA was the icing on the cake for A LOT of people.

Left for Republic and it's been night and day.

123494 09-05-2018 12:00 PM


Originally Posted by mfflyer (Post 2668861)
I was in a May Indoc class with PDT. Didn't have a great experience at all for indoc, lots of one person saying this, another person says that ,no communication from the company and phone calls from a CP when you asked training too many times for an update. The TA was the icing on the cake for A LOT of people.

Left for Republic and it's been night and day.

Wow, no words. You call training for an update since the Company can not communicate for sh*t, and you get a call from a CP. They make you the bad guy since you have no idea when you’ll come back. What a clown show. Good luck at Republic. I’m sure you’ll have a much better QOL.

mfflyer 09-05-2018 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by 123494 (Post 2668867)
Wow, no words. You call training for an update since the Company can not communicate for sh*t, and you get a call from a CP. They make you the bad guy since you have no idea when you’ll come back. What a clown show. Good luck at Republic. I’m sure you’ll have a much better QOL.

Zero Response. Mind you, this happened to a bunch of us in the class.

Not to play the whole drink the koolaid game because at the end of the day, a regional is a regional, but for comparison, at RJET we had our schedules before we even showed up to indoc, including the delay. They even told us "this will change once you get to sims" but the fact that they at least gave us and idea, and have been so transparent has been really great. (Our iPads have slack so we are in constant communication with each of the training directors and instructors.)

Piedmont has a really great pilot group that has done a lot for the company and they all deserve better leadership and a company who is ready to leave the 1980's behind.

MD-11Loader 09-05-2018 03:28 PM


Originally Posted by flysooner9 (Post 2668689)
Flaps 45 speed is 145. Vapp is often very near that speed. Now I guess the company wants any over speed to be written up. I guess it used to be you could exceed the speed momentarily with no harm no foul.

Do you have the limitation that allows for monentary deviations? Or...use flaps 22, it’s much better. I do one flaps 45 landing a sequence or if the runway dictates it such as DBQ.

Lvlng4Spd 09-05-2018 03:45 PM


Originally Posted by MD-11Loader (Post 2668978)
Do you have the limitation that allows for monentary deviations? Or...use flaps 22, it’s much better. I do one flaps 45 landing a sequence or if the runway dictates it such as DBQ.

Well as usual here at PDT it isn't in limitations section but up to 155 knots momentary is listed in the Approach-Landing-Go Around section. Chapter 8. Section 1.1. Table X-1. So I'm not writing anything up until that section is amended or clarified. End rant.

MKUltra 09-05-2018 04:11 PM

This involves piedmont.. faa.. and embrear... this is a big deal right now... this may have major implications for our management..

Otterbox 09-05-2018 04:39 PM


Originally Posted by MD-11Loader (Post 2668978)
Do you have the limitation that allows for monentary deviations? Or...use flaps 22, it’s much better. I do one flaps 45 landing a sequence or if the runway dictates it such as DBQ.

Big push at Piedmont in the last 18 months to make flaps 45 Standard except where flaps 22 is required for operational considerations...

PDTFlyer 09-05-2018 05:23 PM


Originally Posted by MKUltra (Post 2669011)
This involves piedmont.. faa.. and embrear... this is a big deal right now... this may have major implications for our management..

Management is coated in Teflon. Nothing has happened or will happen to them. Quit getting your hopes up, and everyone else’s for that matter.

MKUltra 09-05-2018 05:38 PM


Originally Posted by PDTFlyer (Post 2669056)
Management is coated in Teflon. Nothing has happened or will happen to them. Quit getting your hopes up, and everyone else’s for that matter.

Yes they are... we will see..

MD-11Loader 09-06-2018 01:12 AM


Originally Posted by Otterbox (Post 2669028)
Big push at Piedmont in the last 18 months to make flaps 45 Standard except where flaps 22 is required for operational considerations...

Do you think that it’s driven by the newness of the fleet to PDT and the relative inexperience of management? I’ve ridden your jumpseat a a few times and most of the captains were annoyed with flaps 45 and the f/o’s didn’t know anything different. It’s kind of funny how two sister companies fly the airplane so differently, but I guess we’ll pick one way or the other when AAG merges us. 😜


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