OpMidClimax

PBS really don't help our schedules unless we open up more flying and get round Robin flying... doing mdt and abe turns or that crap clt flying is going to keep trips and credit the same.. unless american laxes the banking scheme at phl and clt, do not expect our schedules and trips to change.

Now let's talk about staffing.. look at how many pilots are available to bid today..... it's on the bidding page... look at how many FOs that are on the upgrade list in the next few months... we need about 50 FOs line qualified in the next few months to keep up with upgrade. If anyone thinks we can staff the current planes we have now just do some simple math.. for every captain we lose remember that is two seats that need to be filled. One for the vacant left seat and then one for the now vacant right seat. When we lose an FO it's worse as that is now 3 seats, as they just lost the CA seat they thought they would fill to replace the captain they just lost.

Remember the note about hiring only to cover attrition was at a time when we were voting on a TA and triple premium was trying to be taken away and the rumor it wasn't coming back. Remember our management (top) is very adept at workforce negotiations... look at us airways mid 2000s and what that group gave away.

American/ PDT has problems.. 50 seat jets are being phased out, we are operating planes that aren't economical, crews that aren't economical, and an inefficient route system .. we ron rj's at ROA, AVP, AGS, ETC., delta parks a bus, 717, MD, etc.

I guess what I am blabbing about, know your worth right now. American had invested 100s of thousands of dollars in you. If your QOL and pay is terrible right now there are lots of LCC and cargo operations killing for us. American in 10 and twenty years from now may or not be a great place... make money now and make your QOL as good as it can be now.

MantisToboggan

This again man? Wanna know how many got hired outside of the flow at AA last year across the three WO?

Before you tell me that there are other airlines, consider your audience. I am here for AA. That's why I came to a regional with a flow to AA. Are you at a major? Do you have skeletons?

MantisToboggan

Did you come to PDT thinking it would morph from the 1976 corolla with a rusted out frame to a Porsche?

I bought the rusted out beater with a contract to trade it in for something shiny down the road. You don't come to Piedmont thinking it's ever gonna get better, and if you did then you didn't do your homework. Same as it ever was.

If you wanted good now, you should have gone to Republic. You still can. I'm gonna deal with this hellhole until my number gets called

4thgenaviator

This sh!t about vacation is ridiculous. Only pilot group I know that will complain about likely getting more days off a month and more efficient trips (i.e. higher credit) but MAYBE having to lose a few days of your sweet vacay.

Flyinguy

I attempted to do my homework, I guess it wasn't good enough, or the toll expected ended up piling up worse than expected? I knew the frame was rusted out, but wasn't expecting the windows to get stuck down and the windshield to crack/shatter... so I had to drive in below freezing weather with no windows.


I am with you there, we're "in too deep" at this point.
However, IF there was a chance for getting out slightly faster, or improving slightly while here, I would take improving slightly. Get the windshield/windows repaired and drive for 1 more year, would be preferred to getting frostbite on my face for 'only' 6 more months. You can't reverse frostbite, tissue gets damaged and is unrepairable.

I guess it is a debate on the singles vs family types. Sure if I was single, I could give up a bit of my life now to have a nice one in the future, it really only affects me. But those with other commitments have others that are affected, and that time can't come back.

4thgenaviator

What an appalling attitude. “I’ll just sit here, be miserable, complain about everything and hope I make it big one day.” God. It’s not so crazy to want to make this place better for myself and the people behind me, regardless of whether we make it somewhere else or not.

Lahey

Dude.

Brilliant, I mean BRILLIANT people have tried. Before your time. Before my time. They're long gone, but if you talk to them about whats going on here? SOS.

MantisToboggan

Quote me saying I wouldn’t try to make things better and I’ll concede. But that’s not what I said. If you sign onto a deal with a bad airline with bad quality of life and bet on it getting better... not a smart move. The contract is your guarantee (well, it’s supposed to be at least lol PDT ALPA). You can’t count on it getting better.

I think Flyinguy and myself are on the same page. He’s right that it depends a lot on your personal life and the sacrifices you can make. Some can deal with a lot, more easily, simply because they don’t have kids.

Anyway, if you think I’m just sitting around here letting myself stagnate....

evrbodysmugglin

Kalitta is open 200k third year
Spirit same if order happens
Frontier same with new deal

Jetblue. If they call??
Hawaiian with a HNL address
Alaska? Who the hell knows
Moxy? Maybe? Merge with JetBlue


Many paths to a great career. Legacies are great but. Also downturns can cut lists by 30% quick. You’ll not know if you chose right until you walk out at 65 and light one up. (Stogie of course)😉

PDTFlyer

Anyone go to the meeting today since we have so many keyboard warriors in here? How was it Mantis, or did you have to work?