cardiomd

If your last medical expired, not revoked, then I agree with above just go ahead and apply for 3rd class if that is what you will ultimately want. If you would be happy with LSA then just go that route. Should be ok.

Choose your AME wisely - find out from local pilots what they are "like", or go to one you know. They should all be the "same" but this is real life and they are not. Some are a bit "paranoid" and make a big deal about everything, while some are more laid back and reasonable.

I'm NOT an AME, but get lots of referrals for expert consult and have quite a few captains back in the left / right seat for suspected or real cardiac issues, mainly from 2 AMEs who send them over to me. I got to know the guys at our FSDO for some certification matters and they are quite reasonable. If I really vouch that something is not an issue they listen. However, something like this you'll have to really convince everybody that it is truly no longer an issue.

Stuff like this will be really strongly tied to your whole attitude about the process and getting a good relationship with the AME. I'm not in MA anymore so can't get you the name of some favorable ones unfortunately. Ask around before scheduling the appointment, be honest, forthright and optimistic. Good luck.

atpwannabe

It's gonna be interesting to see how all this turns out! My reason for saying this is b/c it's his first DUI. Although he blew a .21, I wonder if Washington has considered a HIMS evaluation.

Either way, my friend, I really hope it works out for you. I know the emotional roller coaster that you're on.



atp

WienPilot

I'm a HIMS counselor (I'm not a M.D., AME or shrink).

If someone has one DUI there is a 85% chance they are an alcoholic. If someone has two DUI's there is a 99% chance they are an alcoholic. Alcoholics come in all shapes and sizes, some can dry out on their own for months/years before relapse, others get on a highway to hell and end up dead in a few short years.

I don't have my notes in front of me, but I was under the impression a BAC of .15 or greater initiated a mandatory "assessment" by a medical professional.

The advice in this thread is sound. Lawyer up and find a HIMS AME. Maybe even a Psychiatrist that is also a HIMS AME. AMAS is also very good. There are many different interpretations, I've even seen M.D.'s at AMAS disagree on stuff. Multiple opinions may be necessary. Some airlines let those in recovery go back to work in a few months, with others it takes at least a year. There is no cut-and-dry, yes-or-no with this issue...it often depends who looks at your paperwork and who does your medical exam/testing.

If you want to pursue a career in aviation you have an uphill battle. My opinion only, things will go much easier if you do not drink again (ever) and follow a HIMS style program that helps you achieve that. Anyone with any education/experience in this field would question a "one time bad judgement" diagnosis, even if it is accurate. That's just the way it is, it may not be fair, but that's been my experience.

Also, Canada treats most DUIs as a felony conviction. Don't try to go there in an airplane until you get all this sorted out. They will likely not let you off the plane. Sometimes it takes thousands of dollars to get the DUI expunged off your record.

Good luck and stay sober.

siuaviation

Question regarding the Canadian entry issue a few people had mentioned; I understand you can apply for "rehabilitation" after 5 years. However, would an airline hire me if, before the 5 years have been reached, I have a Canadian temporary resident permit? I'll be eligible for "rehabilitation" in about 1.5 years.

My current dilemma: former Part 121 guy, left the airlines and aviation in 2009. In August 2010 received DUI. Sentence was completed and final court date was in March 2012. I'm working with an aviation attorney in getting my medical back and would like to return to the airlines (regionals) once I get it back and am current once again.

Desert Sky

TRP's are just fine, no issues. When did you get your TRP?

siuaviation

I haven't yet applied for a temporary resident permit. I've been in contact with an immigration attorney in Canada as well and they've advised they won't process a temporary resident permit until I get a job offer from an airline. Does this sound right? Does anyone have a reputable firm to work within order to get a temporary resident permit and then apply for "rehabilitation"?

Thanks!

Desert Sky

They are doing it because it creates an exigency for Canada to grant you a TRP. Basically, strengthening your chances of getting it approved by saying you need it due to your job.

You could always do it yourself.

James09

Though it might not be a best advice but the best is first to get TRP and then go for rehab. Going for rehab first might jeopardize your chances of getting TRP. I have assisted my uncle who is a DUI lawyer, so know things a little bit. Though I will try to ask if he can help in this.

Fatigued Flyer

ive heard the best way to get a TRP is by physically going to one of the canadian borders like the windsor bridge in Detroit rather than processing one online. Youll get it that day rather than waiting like 8 months

vickpatel

I had a similar situation. I had to go through the HIMS program with the FAA. On going monitoring, IOP Treatment, Support Groups, AA the whole 9 yards...but I was able to get a special issuance. This July the HIMS AME is going to recommend I come off monitoring and will be able to apply for a first class medical without restriction.

Now the hard part is finding a job. I am currently working on getting a CFI.

Would like to hear other stories with people with similar circumstances. Hope the best for you.

Vick