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Old 10-25-2021, 02:42 AM
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I’m not sure I follow. If I’m a captain now and they are still on the Fo list, I shouldn’t have to wait for a line for them to upgrade. Once they upgrade that’s one thing, but if those fo’s where ready to upgrade why do they need dec?
dec life

Year zero - you are junior to everyone so you are on reserve

year one - you are junior to almost everyone, still on reserve

year two - lots of FO’s junior to you, but the brand new fo’s hired six months before you are captains now

year three - again all the riddle rat’s have turned 23 and can upgrade. You are still among the most junior captain on property
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Old 10-25-2021, 03:23 AM
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Any idea how long I can expect SCR to be at a junior base like DCA? Also is LCR commutable
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Old 10-25-2021, 03:40 AM
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FO scr plan on a year and you will likely be very happy

lcr is generally commutable if you have hourly nonstops that are not aa hub > aa hub. However you are unlikely to be on lcr for more than a month
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Old 10-25-2021, 04:02 AM
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dec life

Year zero - you are junior to everyone so you are on reserve

year one - you are junior to almost everyone, still on reserve

year two - lots of FO’s junior to you, but the brand new fo’s hired six months before you are captains now

year three - again all the riddle rat’s have turned 23 and can upgrade. You are still among the most junior captain on property
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Originally Posted by awaywego View Post
I’m not sure I follow. If I’m a captain now and they are still on the Fo list, I shouldn’t have to wait for a line for them to upgrade. Once they upgrade that’s one thing, but if those fo’s where ready to upgrade why do they need dec?
I would very much recommend you make sure you fully understand what you're signing up for before coming on board as a DEC. You WILL be on reserve for 4-5 years, and will be among the most junior Captains at whatever your base is for at least 2 years.

The FO and Captain seniority lists are not separate, so every FO on property before you came in as a DEC will be senior to you whenever they upgrade. So you'll need to be cool with watching yourself sit on the bottom of the Captain list for at least 2 years before you actually start to see new upgrades come in junior to you.
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Old 10-25-2021, 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by awaywego View Post
I’m not sure I follow. If I’m a captain now and they are still on the Fo list, I shouldn’t have to wait for a line for them to upgrade. Once they upgrade that’s one thing, but if those fo’s where ready to upgrade why do they need dec?
It sounds like the problem they're having is that they have a bunch of FOs that don't have the legal qualifications for upgrade. 1000 121, etc. Once those FOs get their 1000 hours, they upgrade, but in the company they are senior to you as a DEC because they have been in the company longer than you as a new captain, even if you went straight to the left seat. When they upgrade they actually lower your seniority as a captain. Hell you could be holding a line as a DEC, then a bunch of FOs that are more senior to you in the company overall upgrade and you get booted straight back down to reserve. Unless you just want the PIC time, find your happiness from hanging around the airport on reserve, or just like being at work all the time, and don't care about QOL, being a DEC is a pretty raw deal from the looks of it. Me personally having the 1000 hours of 121 time would be interested in PSA because of their new hire signon bonus and the CRJ type bonus and it seems like the FO reserve time isn't too too long based on what people here have said, but I would stay away and wouldn't want to be forced into the DEC category simply because I value QOL and don't want to have 11 days off on reserve for five years. I rather sit in the right seat and upgrade when my seniority would give me a line.
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Old 10-25-2021, 05:58 AM
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dec life

Year zero - you are junior to everyone so you are on reserve

year one - you are junior to almost everyone, still on reserve

year two - lots of FO’s junior to you, but the brand new fo’s hired six months before you are captains now

year three - again all the riddle rat’s have turned 23 and can upgrade. You are still among the most junior captain on property
Okay, didn’t think it was that bad. May reconsider my choices coming up. Thanks for the info.
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Old 10-25-2021, 06:26 AM
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Okay, didn’t think it was that bad. May reconsider my choices coming up. Thanks for the info.
‘That’s the life of the DEC at all the regionals……
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That said… any DEC is likely to TPIC so hard they can easily leave within a year or two
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Old 10-25-2021, 06:56 AM
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For another airline…. On reserve!! Yeah I should have been a trash man!!
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