I signed CJO in December 2023 got "TBD". The only other option I have is republic with their contract

 

I would check out flexjet -no contract there

 

FLex now requires 3000TT just a FYI

 

I honestly don't think PSA will have this imbalance sorted for a few months, and I'd surely apply other places even if you're a Cadet.

 

I’d give it another month and if they keep extending it, I’d probably consider going elsewhere. It could be worse though. In 2021 right after Covid was ‘over’ and 121 hiring resumed, I got a CJO at endeavor and they told us it would be 9-10 months until our class would start. I said hell to the no. PSA on the other hand gave me a class date 3 weeks out lol. It’s amazing how fast things can change in this business, even within the same company.

 

Great all I need to get now is 1300 hours more

 

So is anyone aware that PSA again just closed their new hire FO classes and are now waiting until at least Summer 2024 at the earliest to start bringing FOs/cadets again? I'd be happy to see if anyone wants to correct me on this but this is what a source claimed. Looking at the silence PSA has been displaying this might very well be true.

 

Where did you heaar this from? If that was the case id assume they'd notify people. I was told by a recruiter classes are actually stabilizing

 

Does anyone know if PSA will pentalize Cadets if they find work somewhere else? I have a CJO from Envoy, and an interview with Piedmont next week. PSA already paid for my CTP, but I will gladly pay them 5k back. I'd rather go to Envoy at this point anyways. There's loose language in the Cadet Letter/CJO that states we shouldn't engage with other airlines. I know its typical for people to rack up CJOs, and go where they want. I just have thoughts in the back of mind the wholly owns will find out I have offers at 2/3 of them. I don't think they really keep track or care, but you never know. Many PSA Cadets I've talked to are in class at other airlines since they've been pushed.

When I signed up for the PSA Cadet Program 2 years ago, the HR pilot said there was no real commitment to them unless you received bonus money. If you wanted to leave before 24 months, you simply paid them back.

As far as PSA class dates go, I've heard so many different things. I don't have a crystal ball, but I don't think most of us would be in PSA class by summer at the earliest. The FedEx pilots are indeed coming, and they have many other high time FOs and DECs in the pipeline. Unless you're a Cadet who actually got the bonuses, they are not making you a priroity. The whole reason I let PSA keep my CTP date is thinking they'd bump me up. Turns out, it made no difference. It might have gotten me an Envoy CJO though.

The main thing that concerns me about PSA is they are being very wishy washy, and aren't giving hard dates for Indoc. They're basically speculating you'll start one month, then push you another 1-2 down the road. They are holding carrots in our faces. I'm sick of it. I wish they let us do things at our own pace, and say something along the lines of, "Just stay where you're at, we'll call you when your time comes." They made a big deal that I would be ready for Indoc on 1/15. Thank god my flight school let me have my CFI job back. Envoy at least figured out their CA imbalance last year, and are now ready to hire FOs off the street again. Envoy claims 2 classes a month, 75-90 FOs each. That should move a lot faster than the 30-40 PSA starts a month. Most of those are DECs anyways.

I have a slight conspiracy theory that PSA took on way too many FOs, and are kinda hoping candidates will leave on their own and find work elsewhere. They will never own up to their hiring miscalculation. I have a friend who has been pushed multiple times. He was supposed to start 10/23, and now told 3/24. That's quite the wait.

 

An LCA at the company. Now, I am sure he doesn't have the complete picture but the silence from PSA does lend credence to this theory. Did your recruiter assure you this isn't the case? It is a miracle you were able to get a response from them. In my case they haven't responded to my communications at all.