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Old 05-30-2024 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 170Till5
bottom of the list when you flow, just like Endeavor to DL. Even non-rev for seniority starts fresh at the bottom. Don’t expect any jump in seniority besides bottom of the list. Maybe top of your Indoc class
AA non-rev priority is based solely upon your check-in time. Seniority has zero to do with it.
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Old 05-30-2024 | 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by MstrAv8r
AA non-rev priority is based solely upon your check-in time. Seniority has zero to do with it.
it’s just an example of how 2 ALPA carriers handle integration, and everything starts over when you flow or if there is a staple. There’s 0% chance any seniority from a regional would skip mainline seniority at AA, or any major for any reason.
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Old 06-02-2024 | 02:06 PM
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7 years to flow to a major may seem like a long time, but compared to 15 years ago when it took that long or longer just to be qualified to interview for a major might help folks realize they're in a golden age of opportunity.
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Old 06-03-2024 | 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Ed Fitzgerald
7 years to flow to a major may seem like a long time, but compared to 15 years ago when it took that long or longer just to be qualified to interview for a major might help folks realize they're in a golden age of opportunity.
Not to mention back then regional pilots were paid peanuts. Nowadays we're making mainline wages while waiting to flow. SAP'ing to 18 days off a month and still making six figures easy while flying a fun jet. Amazing travel privileges all over the world. And all this is available to anyone with 1500 hours in a Skyhawk. Anyone complaining about PSA will probably complain about their time at AA, or anywhere else for that matter. My advice...don't overthink it. Relax. All of us have hit the lottery. Enjoy the ride, however long it takes.
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Old 01-15-2025 | 03:29 AM
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I'm new to some of the airline lingo...what do you mean by "SAPing?" Is this just adjusting your schedule after you awarded a bid to allow for more time off?
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Old 01-15-2025 | 05:15 AM
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Nothing is guaranteed.

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Old 01-15-2025 | 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Ltsheets
I'm new to some of the airline lingo...what do you mean by "SAPing?" Is this just adjusting your schedule after you awarded a bid to allow for more time off?
SAP is the schedule adjustment program. All airlines allow some degree of voluntary schedule changes after the schedule is published, but PSA historically had a particularly robust version. It may have changed in the last few years, but regardless SAP is particular to PSA and not a general feature of airline schedules.
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Old 01-19-2025 | 02:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Ltsheets
I'm new to some of the airline lingo...what do you mean by "SAPing?" Is this just adjusting your schedule after you awarded a bid to allow for more time off?
SAP doesn't exist anymore. It was just a method of being able to edit your awarded schedule. You can still edit your schedule with the new system, but SAP was nice because you could nearly guartentee you'd get exactly what you want, even as the most junior line holder.

Originally Posted by VacancyBid
SAP is the schedule adjustment program. All airlines allow some degree of voluntary schedule changes after the schedule is published, but PSA historically had a particularly robust version. It may have changed in the last few years, but regardless SAP is particular to PSA and not a general feature of airline schedules.
SAP is gone, PBS has arrived.
Originally Posted by Ed Fitzgerald
7 years to flow to a major may seem like a long time, but compared to 15 years ago when it took that long or longer just to be qualified to interview for a major might help folks realize they're in a golden age of opportunity.
Right now pilots with 7 years since date of hire are flowing. Obviously all of those were hired pre-covid. The interesting thing is that COVID created a 1 year 3 month gap on the senority list when there was no hiring. So in theory, for those who were hired after COVID, that may shave off 1.3 from their time to flow, putting them around 5.8 years. In theory.
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Old 01-19-2025 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by TallFlyer
For those hired from mid '13 to mid '14 there was a 5 year flow, although there was no way individuals could've known that at the time. I was hired later in '14 and I would've been a 6 year flow except for this little thing called Covid. As it was I was 7.5 years.
This. Flow is only good for those about to flow.
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Old 02-23-2025 | 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by bluespoon
This. Flow is only good for those about to flow.
Do you have to be a CA to be eligible for the flow at PSA?
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