PSA CRJ 200 Skids off Runway at CRW
01-20-2010, 06:05 AM
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I hate that airport with a passion, very interested to see what they aborted for. I dont have any judgement now, and I wont then because i wasn't in their aircraft. There are a couple airports in the northeast where your margin for error is zero in the even that anything goes wrong. This one is one of them. I am very thankful that the stopping system worked.
01-20-2010, 06:21 AM
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Does PSA abort above 80KIAS for fire or engine failure only? (Birds would be another one to add to that list.) That is the policy at ASA but we've had our share of captains aborting above 80 for things other than that.... (yes, Anti Skid too!)
01-20-2010, 06:53 AM
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It is a good thing the EMAS functioned as designed. I wonder about the quality of the CR2 braking systen, but that probably wasn't a factor..
It reminds me of a rainy day landing at DCA with Cactus 42, but it was a perfect landing.
It reminds me of a rainy day landing at DCA with Cactus 42, but it was a perfect landing.
01-20-2010, 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by John Pennekamp
Holy crap! That is a very BAD airport to have an overrun. For the sake of all of us, I'm glad no one was injured!
As a side note, let's refrain from pointing fingers and second guessing the crew's decision. "There by the grace of God go I".
As a side note, let's refrain from pointing fingers and second guessing the crew's decision. "There by the grace of God go I".
PinnacleFO has it right for now. Hold the criticism AND the praise until facts are known if you're the type of poster that hates speculation.
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01-20-2010, 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by mooney
aborting for anti skid...now that's funny! Itchy trigger finger!
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01-20-2010, 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR
In my experience in another aircraft - aborting is a tricky subject (and tricky procedure) all the way around. It seemed to be one that many people had different opinions on - no matter how well one thinks it is standardized; ESPECIALLY a high speed abort. I'm glad everything worked out OK in this instance.
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True but loss of anti skid should be cut-and-dry not to abort. Do you abort at v1, 140 knots with 3-4000 feet of runway remaining for an antiskid message, most likely blowing every tire and losing directional control, or takeoff and land somewhere with a 9000 ft runway where it won't even be a factor? I think it's clear.
01-20-2010, 07:33 AM
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I don't know anything about this airplane, other than that it has a cramped cabin, and that I don't like to be aft of row 8 since there's no tail exit. Is any part of the warning system inhibited above 80 knots? Just curious; no judgements.
01-20-2010, 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Phuz
psa use reduced power takeoffs at crw, or any airport?
You'd better believe it, every time... They also assure the pilots that those engines have never failed on a reduced power take off.
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