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07-31-2013 | 12:45 PM

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skyxbomb

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Originally Posted by BoilerUP

Do you know the circumstances of how PSA got jets in the first place, and how Piedmont and Allegheny got screwed by that?

Yes I've been in this game for 13 years. And like I said, I can't blame them if they take concessions. And I probably would too if I was at pdt. Payback's a female dog.

07-31-2013 | 07:44 PM

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PSA says NO to concessions!

The jets were going to PSA no matter what. It was a well played strategy that got concessions from all three airlines. ALPA watched it happen, namely Chris Beebe and his under-nose dead animal along with the rest of the AAA MEC.

07-31-2013 | 08:07 PM

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anddddd que eagle vs. psa vs. pdt here on APC as we all continue in talks for new aircraft.

ding ding ding

07-31-2013 | 11:17 PM

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See that title wave coming at ya Roger Cohen?

I'm not Roger Cohen but if you were addressing me with that comment I would only think less of you and probably your peers as well for being unable to grasp simple grammar or overcome autocorrect.

Tidal. Like the tide. Like the ocean.

Go back and edit your post man, have some pride.

08-01-2013 | 01:33 AM

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Way to focus on what matters. I'm sure he would laugh at you. Tey want to take money out of your pocket and you're more concerned with some guys autocorrect mistake. Way to see the big picture here.

08-01-2013 | 03:24 AM

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Someone on Eagle lounge said they heard last night they said no and also that the Piedmont guys are expecting a visit from Dougie and friends toward the end of the week.

Haven't heard this. Don't know why he would be coming to PDT.

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08-01-2013 | 04:36 AM

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Last PSA pilots heard was that our union was meeting again with mainline "later this week" so I'm assuming today or tomorrow. Little early for such speculation fellas? This thread is one huge breeding ground for trolls

08-01-2013 | 04:45 AM

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Do you know the circumstances of how PSA got jets in the first place, and how Piedmont and Allegheny got screwed by that?

Do you recall how RAH got the E175 for USairways? 2004 PSA voted NO to flying them for 50 seat rates..... You see how that turned out for PSA since then...... No wonder RAH can't get a contract when you barely make money because your CEO bids flying so low.....

Think Skywest didn't want that AA feed? They have a smart CEO not willing to work on such tight margins.

08-01-2013 | 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by meyers9163

I don't, nor have I ever, flown for RAH; my regional experience came flying at Air Wisconsin.

I did, however, intern at Chautauqua in summer 2004 and helped write the very first E170 ops manual there...which was more or less a word-for-word copy of MidAtlantic's manual with a different logo at the top of the page. Those initial RAH E170s were were to be flown exclusively for United Express with J4J captains.

To answer your question...I believe RAH started operating E170s for US Airways in 2005, after purchasing MidAtlantic assets which helped AAA/AWA generate cash before their merger was finalized. But I could be wrong...

08-01-2013 | 05:26 AM

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I don't, nor have I ever, flown for RAH; my regional experience came flying at Air Wisconsin.

I did, however, intern at Chautauqua in summer 2004 and helped write the very first E170 ops manual there...which was more or less a word-for-word copy of MidAtlantic's manual with a different logo at the top of the page. Those initial RAH E170s were were to be flown exclusively for United Express with J4J captains.

I do not know when RAH began US Airways Express ops with E170s...did it have to do with the AAA/AWA merger and purchase of MidAtlantic assets in 2005 as part of emergence from Chapter 11, or were there E170s in Airways colors prior to that?

Everyone seems to mix it up. Many think when PSA voted no in 2004 to CRJ900 that mesa undercut or got those planes. That's a false thought. After the no vote RAH got the 38 E175s in which was the number presented to PSA for 900s. All I'm getting at is PSA said no once to flying a larger plane for 50 seat rates. I don't follow the logic of PSA would say yes because they have before. The evidence is opposite yet gets mixed up, especially by some AE guys these days.

Truth is PSA is small with most guys at 6-8 years longevity and thus cost significantly less then most.