PSA and other regional class dates
 

Once you interview and do get an offer how long before you are in class ? Can you or is it frowned upon to get an offer and ask for a later class date ?

Thanks

Most often than not, regionals will offer you the next upcoming class date unless it's full. I, myself, have been offered class dates anywhere between 2 weeks and 6 months being the maximum allotted time. I don't think it's frowned upon. People do it all the time. It is best to get in now rather than later due to seniority but you are the only who knows your own schedule.

Thanks for the info, trying to get things in order if I get hired. I have to finish work on my house and rent it before I do anything.

Were doing so much hiring right now you might not get into the first class so could be up to two weeks

What's the upgrade time at PSA now? APC shows 2007; is that still accurate?

Under 100 to go tell we hit 2012 hires, 2009 hires upgrading at the moment with 24 upgrades planned a month.

Those are 2007/08 hires. They were furloughed. Their actual DOH isn't reflected properly.

Before coming here, my understanding was the company didn't hire in 2009/2010. 2011 hires will start upgrading soon, and possibly 2012 hires by the end of the year.

Don't go to PSA. That is all.

Upgrade is about 3 years right now and falling if the classes continue to be 8 every 2 weeks

They plan to up it to 12 every two weeks sometime in the next few months.

I'm surprised they can get that many people to go there.

Do you understand what the OP was asking? That is all.

I think the most junior captain is around Dec 2007/ Jan 2008. That puts us at 6 year plus upgrade time. But since we haven't hired anyone for 2.5 years after that, the upgrade will fall to 3 years in the next few months. Talk about timing...

Motormadness got it right! That is all.

The 12 every two weeks are captain upgrade classes. New hires classes are 25 every two weeks and about to be upped to 30.

Right now the most junior CA's are from the Dec '07 time frame. They have just started getting into the '08 classes. I'm not sure how they plan on ramping up on new hires and captain upgrades. We have a way to go before we are even close to breaking even on either side. They have already downsized one CA upgrade class.

To answer your original question I think at this point you would not get offered the next class. They seem to be pretty full. When I interviewed in '07 I had to wait almost three months for a class. But there is always the possibility of someone backing out. But get started sooner so you can get better seniority

PSA has taken delivery of ZERO new airplanes and they can't staff the -200/-700's they have now.

Food for thought. If I had a little brother who wanted to be an airline pilot he would be anywhere but that Pathetic Sucky Airline.

The information on aviationinterviews.com seems to be detailed and updated regularly. The information there comes from interview candidates and seems to contradict the naysayers here. PSA doesn't appear to have a problem filling classes. Apparently, they have contract instruction (flight safety, etc.) set up to handle any training backlogs, "IF NEEDED". Apparently, new hires go to ABC city to get trained....upgrades go to XYZ city to get trained. Just some FYI, good luck....http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/im...cons/icon7.gif

They aren't even slated to start taking deliveries until June..The first one is already done and being inspected in YUL. The second one will be completed next month.

Wow, so negative. Just curious being new here and all. What do you state such negative connotations on?

2 words... Training bubble

It's what happens with rapid growth

We actually gave away 2 airplanes worth of flying in April.

Enjoy your new airplanes and old pay rates...what a shame.

The pay rates are new from April 2013.
When we get 900's it will be a pay raise on the 200's as well.
The TA was essentially a pay freeze at year 12. And 4 for f/o's.

You guys get cola bumps or is it a pay freeze for 10 years?

1% per year....yehaw.

Does that offset the medical package hike?

Nobody should be flying around a 900 for less than $135/$75 pay scales. It's a lot of work and responsibility. After you have been in the industry for a few years you will understand. Try to go to a regional with better standards. (yes, there are regionals with better standards and headed in a better direction)

For myself, yes.

I don't know the answer for someone on the family plan but I'd say not even close.

Like Mesa??? Their year-4 900 rate is equal to PSAs year-2 rate & Mesa has a ton of 900s. Agree it should be more, but PSA's standards are "ok" for 50 new hires per month & classes every two weeks.......just sayin.

Not sure what standards you are referring to but I don't believe any one pays that much. And the direction is up as far as growth and upgrades. When I read the people on here bashing the PSA pilot group I can't help but wonder how long they have been in the industry. The current environment of downward pressure can be traced back to 2001 when we at Comair walked out for 89 days. We won a good contract. But within a couple months Chautagua went into their 30 day cooling off period and decided to under cut what we had just laid it on the line for.
They will say 911 happened and that may be partially to blame but since that time it has basically been down hill from there.
So if any one on here wants to bash a pilot group for agreeing to concessions think back to 2001. PSA is not alone in giving concessions. They were small enough they could of easily been closed down. And one more note. ALPA has had a big hand in all of this also. But that is a story of it's own.

Air canada jazz. And everywhere else in the world

Seriously? That's your answer?

You guys get 1 percent a year for 10 years? Woefully short of inflation. Maybe 10 percent pay cut.

This is true, and it sucks but...

It's only true for someone who is capped(12/4). Hopefully most of us won't see that and will continue to get raises every year.

You are the problem. Listen to what you're saying. Honestly nothing to say other than hopefully you wake up one day. Let's raise the standards. If you want to continue endorsing this low standard and join a bunch of people who shamefully destroyed the industry that's your choice.

I'm not endorsing anything.

Every single one of your posts is over the top aggressive. I don't feel the need to defend what I say to you.

Come back with a rational statement and maybe you'll get one in return.

Yep because things were so amazing until a few months ago when PSA single handedly "destroyed the industry". :rolleyes: give me a break.

Lol.... I wasn't aware that the industry was in good standing to be destroyed.

Not taking sides it just sounded kinda silly. Carry on now :D