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ontheramp 07-18-2014 01:45 PM


Originally Posted by formercrjdriver (Post 1687072)
I don't hate PSA "because someone told me to". Besides what they've done to the industry, I hate PSA because I was there, and hated it. The culture there is absolutely awful, the management was terrible. I have a number of friends looking for flying jobs, and I'm telling them in the strongest terms possible to look elsewhere, for their own benefit and sanity. I'm glad I got out.

What was so bad about it?

pagey 07-18-2014 01:46 PM


I don't hate PSA "because someone told me to". Besides what they've done to the industry, I hate PSA because I was there, and hated it. The culture there is absolutely awful, the management was terrible. I have a number of friends looking for flying jobs, and I'm telling them in the strongest terms possible to look elsewhere, for their own benefit and sanity. I'm glad I got out.
The culture here is no worse than it is at any other regional.

I get a bunch of time off with high credit. Training dept is just fine as is maint. Everything else is irrelevant.

comair8904 07-18-2014 01:59 PM


Originally Posted by formercrjdriver (Post 1687072)
I don't hate PSA "because someone told me to". Besides what they've done to the industry, I hate PSA because I was there, and hated it. The culture there is absolutely awful, the management was terrible. I have a number of friends looking for flying jobs, and I'm telling them in the strongest terms possible to look elsewhere, for their own benefit and sanity. I'm glad I got out.

Where do you work now? Just curious. And how long have you been flying pt121?

formercrjdriver 07-18-2014 02:01 PM

I disagree. I'm at another regional now. Yes, all regionals are suck-fests, but some are better than others. PSA is way at the bottom of the list. I'll give credit where credit is due- yes, mx was pretty good. Yes, the training department was pretty good. That's it. Scheduling sucked, dispatch sucked, management sucked (including pilot support management), a lot of the flying we did sucked. While I did say mx was pretty good, I frequently had an APU deferred in the middle of the summer. Sucks. In a -200? Sucks REAL bad. The hotels were hit or miss. It's not just about pay.

comair8904 07-18-2014 02:08 PM

I have been in the industry since 1994. WE at Comair went on strike back in 2001 for 89 days to get a decent contract. It was industry leading. Chautauqua agreed to a contract a few months later that under cut our gains. 9-11 did have an impact on that I will concede. But my point is all pilot groups since then have had to deal with the main lines pay to play scheme. It started many years before the PSA pilots agreed to their contract. Many. many years. So when you say we have "ruined it' for every one else think back to what may of been if Chautauqua, then Eagle and the rest had been able to attain Comair plus 1%.

comair8904 07-18-2014 02:09 PM

Now can we PLEASE get back on topic. If you want to flame, please PLEASE go some where else.

formercrjdriver 07-18-2014 02:13 PM

I thought we were encouraged to have a discussion? I'm not "flaming" anyone, or "baiting" anyone, or whatever. This is a discussion about PSA. My opinion of PSA is that it sucks. I see what you're trying to say about the contract. I'm not saying I agree with what you guys did, but I'm saying I see your viewpoint. Contract stuff aside, and based on what I said earlier, my constructive opinion of PSA is that it sucks. You would recommend people to go there, I would not.

comair8904 07-18-2014 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by formercrjdriver (Post 1687101)
I thought we were encouraged to have a discussion? I'm not "flaming" anyone, or "baiting" anyone, or whatever. This is a discussion about PSA. My opinion of PSA is that it sucks. I see what you're trying to say about the contract. I'm not saying I agree with what you guys did, but I'm saying I see your viewpoint. Contract stuff aside, and based on what I said earlier, my constructive opinion of PSA is that it sucks. You would recommend people to go there, I would not.

Fair enough. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,So for every one else. I love it here and would encourage any one interested to contact me with any questions you may have.

BaronRouge380 07-18-2014 04:39 PM

Is PSA still able to fill classes?

tunes 07-18-2014 04:42 PM

Yes..so is mesa...so is republic...so is compass....so is everyone but what seems to be endeavor and envoy


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