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Bbourne2009 02-09-2015 08:55 PM

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I'm sorry I know I'm pressing people's buttons but maybe one person will laugh :D They will eventually be parked but i don't see it happening in the next 2 years. Maybe 3 after they get the hiring they need secretly and then they screw everyone at the bottom. I've heard some PSA people say something about them being on lease till 2019.

spaaks 02-09-2015 11:49 PM

Too much growth too fast. I smell another Mesa type situation

Da40Pilot 02-10-2015 12:51 AM


Originally Posted by spaaks (Post 1822741)
Too much growth too fast. I smell another Mesa type situation

Give people a chance to succeed, for once. Everybody is trying to find ways to bring this company down and say how they're destined for disaster no matter what way you see it. So far, they seem to be doing things right and attracting enough pilots. Give them the benefit of the doubt and stop comparing today with the past, because the landscape is clearly changing rapidly and will continue to do so.

cartean 02-10-2015 03:24 AM


Originally Posted by Bbourne2009 (Post 1822715)
I'm sorry I know I'm pressing people's buttons


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404yxl 02-10-2015 04:16 AM


Originally Posted by Da40Pilot (Post 1822743)
Give people a chance to succeed, for once. Everybody is trying to find ways to bring this company down and say how they're destined for disaster no matter what way you see it. So far, they seem to be doing things right and attracting enough pilots. Give them the benefit of the doubt and stop comparing today with the past, because the landscape is clearly changing rapidly and will continue to do so.

Succeed?

You have much to learn ;)

No one is saying they hope they fail (minus the real Eagle pilots, who have every right to say so). What we are saying is plan on those 50 seat aircraft to get parked and having to deal with absorbing the loss. If you truly can't see behind the recruiters and current PSA pilots' statements that the 50 seat aircraft won't be parked, you are in for a rude awakening.


Originally Posted by Bbourne2009 (Post 1822715)
They will eventually be parked but i don't see it happening in the next 2 years. Maybe 3 after they get the hiring they need secretly and then they screw everyone at the bottom. I've heard some PSA people say something about them being on lease till 2019.

This.

They will more than likely hire enough for the growth, then announce the parking of the 50 seat aircraft once they have enough, that they can park them through attrition.

The lease doesn't matter, the paint job doesn't matter, how new they are doesn't matter. All things that involved the Endeavor 50 seat aircraft and they are getting parked quicker than management ever foretold.

gold 02-10-2015 04:27 AM


Originally Posted by spaaks (Post 1822741)
Too much growth too fast. I smell another Mesa type situation

You know diddly squat. Let us know when you actually become an airline pilot.

FirstClass 02-10-2015 04:38 AM


Originally Posted by 404yxl (Post 1822775)
Succeed?

You have much to learn ;)

No one is saying they hope they fail (minus the real Eagle pilots, who have every right to say so). What we are saying is plan on those 50 seat aircraft to get parked and having to deal with absorbing the loss. If you truly can't see behind the recruiters and current PSA pilots' statements that the 50 seat aircraft won't be parked, you are in for a rude awakening.


This.

They will more than likely hire enough for the growth, then announce the parking of the 50 seat aircraft once they have enough, that they can park them through attrition.

The lease doesn't matter, the paint job doesn't matter, how new they are doesn't matter. All things that involved the Endeavor 50 seat aircraft and they are getting parked quicker than management ever foretold.

You don't know what you are talking about. We can debate it in 10 years when you are my FO over at American. I know its painful for you to see all this happening while you are suffering through downgrades at Endeavor but you have to try and keep your chin up ok?

tom11011 02-10-2015 04:40 AM


Originally Posted by FirstClass (Post 1822783)
you have to try and keep your chin up ok?

zing! lol.

PilotCrusader 02-10-2015 04:42 AM

Ooooohhhh he burned you!!!
Starting to smell that entitled little kid smugness from these guys again. It all
Comes around eventually.

I don't see PSA failing though. I do wish they would. One because they are such smug little bastiges, but more importantly they said yes and started the downward spiral. Just a pipe dreams though. Too many kids are going to get duped into the right seat.

gold 02-10-2015 04:51 AM


Originally Posted by PilotCrusader (Post 1822786)
Ooooohhhh he burned you!!!
Starting to smell that entitled little kid smugness from these guys again. It all
Comes around eventually.

I don't see PSA failing though. I do wish they would. One because they are such smug little bastiges, but more importantly they said yes and started the downward spiral. Just a pipe dreams though. Too many kids are going to get duped into the right seat.

If staffing becomes an issue, AA can send 200s to another operator and delay the 700s coming from envoy even longer. Mesa pilots are probably getting wet right now thinking about flying PSAs 200s for their awesome rates.


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