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PSA Direct Entry!!!!!!!!!!!!
Here I have some real simple logic for all of you. IF you want "flow" to American Airlines then do not come to PSA, go to Envoy or Piedmont.
The hicks in Dayton are never going to up the SSP numbers and this pilot group isn't going to give them a damn thing for it. If your looking for airline experience and a decent upgrade time then PSA could be an option for you. See easy and no math at all. Carry on Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Originally Posted by sublime259
(Post 1925926)
The new-hire pilots who go to PSA are just as bad as the ones who were on property for the vote. They are perpetuating the problem, just as the ones who went to Go-Jet are.
Are new hire pilots at Envoy also "perpetuating the problem?" If no, why not? P.S. I don't expect this question to be answered, just like all the other hard hitting questions I ask. |
Originally Posted by PilotCrusader
(Post 1925493)
But while we talking fact, current flow for a new hire at PSA is 20 years based on the pilot group size and your flow amount. Current flow for a new hire at envoy, again using the required contractual flow, is 6 years. Be a moron and try to spin it however you want, but these too are FACTS of current flows between the two airlines.
I'm at PSA. I'm new. Waiting-to-start-IOE new. We don't have a flow; thus, we don't have a 20 year flow. If we had a flow, the 20 year number is cute. It basically assumes all pilots here would patiently wait in line for their turn @ the 4/month rate. Plenty of pilots here are going elsewhere: United, Atlas, NetJets, LCC's, etc. I didn't choose PSA because they have a SSP with AA. I don't know if I'll ever fly for AA; not necessarily a goal. I looked at Eaglevoy among others. Mostly I saw nothing but FO's sitting on reserve for years. I believe that's still the case; would anyone at Envoy deny that? I mean what is actually happening right now, not what is projected. PSA fit several criteria, and so far it seems like a good operation. Every job has plusses and minuses. From what I see, reserve time is among the industry lowest here. I'm guessing some will see my recent entry to this forum and junior status to a regional airline and assume I'm a fresh-from-school whipper snapper. You'd be wrong. Spent 14 years in general aviation. Was downsized from that; life happens. Only did instruction part time as a side job for a couple of the early years; never did that to eat. My main job during the instruction years was wrenching. I'm certificated to do that. Also spent about 4 years in 135. Got tired of living on-call; decided to try scheduled operations awhile. From the outside looking in, with plenty of life experience, PSA looks like the right opportunity for me. There is a wild amount of sophomoric bitterness directed toward PSA on this forum from people claiming to be professionals. I don't know if those can conceive how sad those folks look to one new to the airline world, but not new to life as a working adult in aviation. Given the choice to join a shrinking airline and sit reserve for likely years or to join a growing airline and, not only avoid a long stint on reserve, but probably be upgrading in the time it took to get off reserve at another regional, the answer is not hard. |
SkyguyT88
Your maturity and level headedness will be greatly appreciated at PSA. Sadly you have just baffled the majority here.
I too, limited my posts on APC. Arguing with the idiots will only blur the line and clearly not everyone gets that. Respectfully, Michael 39% |
Originally Posted by SkyguyT88
(Post 1926844)
This has been an entertaining evening of reading.
I'm at PSA. I'm new. Waiting-to-start-IOE new. We don't have a flow; thus, we don't have a 20 year flow. If we had a flow, the 20 year number is cute. It basically assumes all pilots here would patiently wait in line for their turn @ the 4/month rate. Plenty of pilots here are going elsewhere: United, Atlas, NetJets, LCC's, etc. I didn't choose PSA because they have a SSP with AA. I don't know if I'll ever fly for AA; not necessarily a goal. I looked at Eaglevoy among others. Mostly I saw nothing but FO's sitting on reserve for years. I believe that's still the case; would anyone at Envoy deny that? I mean what is actually happening right now, not what is projected. PSA fit several criteria, and so far it seems like a good operation. Every job has plusses and minuses. From what I see, reserve time is among the industry lowest here. I'm guessing some will see my recent entry to this forum and junior status to a regional airline and assume I'm a fresh-from-school whipper snapper. You'd be wrong. Spent 14 years in general aviation. Was downsized from that; life happens. Only did instruction part time as a side job for a couple of the early years; never did that to eat. My main job during the instruction years was wrenching. I'm certificated to do that. Also spent about 4 years in 135. Got tired of living on-call; decided to try scheduled operations awhile. From the outside looking in, with plenty of life experience, PSA looks like the right opportunity for me. There is a wild amount of sophomoric bitterness directed toward PSA on this forum from people claiming to be professionals. I don't know if those can conceive how sad those folks look to one new to the airline world, but not new to life as a working adult in aviation. Given the choice to join a shrinking airline and sit reserve for likely years or to join a growing airline and, not only avoid a long stint on reserve, but probably be upgrading in the time it took to get off reserve at another regional, the answer is not hard. |
Originally Posted by MichaelVne
(Post 1926891)
Your maturity and level headedness will be greatly appreciated at PSA. Sadly you have just baffled the majority here.
I too, limited my posts on APC. Arguing with the idiots will only blur the line and clearly not everyone gets that. Respectfully, Michael 39% |
Originally Posted by sublime259
(Post 1925926)
The new-hire pilots who go to PSA are just as bad as the ones who were on property for the vote. They are perpetuating the problem, just as the ones who went to Go-Jet are. The ones who went there from envoy are the worst. A lot of them voted no, and then bailed out the second things started getting tough.
Sorry, you're not going to change my opinion on the character of your pilot group. You can make any excuse you deem necessary to help you sleep at night, but the fact of the matter is you guys are weak and literally screwed over any forward momentum the regional industry had going forward. For that, I can only hope that your careers don't go any further then brown streak. |
New hire question.. Tropical blazer or sharkskin blazer? Any recs?
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Originally Posted by joek
(Post 1926215)
How about you focuse your anger towards your own regional, whom ever that might be!!! Oh ya, GET THE FCK OVER IT!!!
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Any idea on bases for the July 6 class?
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