Here I have some real simple logic for all of you. IF you want "flow" to American Airlines then do not come to PSA, go to Envoy or Piedmont.
The hicks in Dayton are never going to up the SSP numbers and this pilot group isn't going to give them a damn thing for it. If your looking for airline experience and a decent upgrade time then PSA could be an option for you. See easy and no math at all.

Carry on


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Question:

Are new hire pilots at Envoy also "perpetuating the problem?"

If no, why not?

P.S. I don't expect this question to be answered, just like all the other hard hitting questions I ask.

 

This has been an entertaining evening of reading.
I'm at PSA. I'm new. Waiting-to-start-IOE new.

We don't have a flow; thus, we don't have a 20 year flow.
If we had a flow, the 20 year number is cute. It basically assumes all pilots here would patiently wait in line for their turn @ the 4/month rate. Plenty of pilots here are going elsewhere: United, Atlas, NetJets, LCC's, etc.
I didn't choose PSA because they have a SSP with AA. I don't know if I'll ever fly for AA; not necessarily a goal. I looked at Eaglevoy among others. Mostly I saw nothing but FO's sitting on reserve for years. I believe that's still the case; would anyone at Envoy deny that? I mean what is actually happening right now, not what is projected. PSA fit several criteria, and so far it seems like a good operation. Every job has plusses and minuses. From what I see, reserve time is among the industry lowest here.

I'm guessing some will see my recent entry to this forum and junior status to a regional airline and assume I'm a fresh-from-school whipper snapper. You'd be wrong. Spent 14 years in general aviation. Was downsized from that; life happens. Only did instruction part time as a side job for a couple of the early years; never did that to eat. My main job during the instruction years was wrenching. I'm certificated to do that. Also spent about 4 years in 135. Got tired of living on-call; decided to try scheduled operations awhile.

From the outside looking in, with plenty of life experience, PSA looks like the right opportunity for me. There is a wild amount of sophomoric bitterness directed toward PSA on this forum from people claiming to be professionals. I don't know if those can conceive how sad those folks look to one new to the airline world, but not new to life as a working adult in aviation. Given the choice to join a shrinking airline and sit reserve for likely years or to join a growing airline and, not only avoid a long stint on reserve, but probably be upgrading in the time it took to get off reserve at another regional, the answer is not hard.

 

Your maturity and level headedness will be greatly appreciated at PSA. Sadly you have just baffled the majority here.
I too, limited my posts on APC. Arguing with the idiots will only blur the line and clearly not everyone gets that.
Respectfully, Michael 39%

 

That was blocked, say again. And you're on guard.

 

Arguing with idiots is pointless. They will end up dragging you down to their level, and then beat you with their decades of experience of being idiots.

 

Really, blaming new hires sounds like an excuse for a weak union. 90% of regional pilots went to the first place that hired them. They wet themselves when that phone rang, you need a reality check. Did you call a guy at AE to get your app pulled?

 

New hire question.. Tropical blazer or sharkskin blazer? Any recs?

 

Take a selfie the PSA way.

 

Any idea on bases for the July 6 class?