PSA Direct Entry!!!!!!!!!!!!
07-11-2015, 06:42 AM
#261
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Posts: 699
Originally Posted by MichaelVne
Your maturity and level headedness will be greatly appreciated at PSA. Sadly you have just baffled the majority here.
I too, limited my posts on APC. Arguing with the idiots will only blur the line and clearly not everyone gets that.
Respectfully, Michael 39%
I too, limited my posts on APC. Arguing with the idiots will only blur the line and clearly not everyone gets that.
Respectfully, Michael 39%
07-11-2015, 09:46 AM
#262
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Joined APC: Dec 2012
Posts: 610
Originally Posted by sublime259
The new-hire pilots who go to PSA are just as bad as the ones who were on property for the vote. They are perpetuating the problem, just as the ones who went to Go-Jet are. The ones who went there from envoy are the worst. A lot of them voted no, and then bailed out the second things started getting tough.
Sorry, you're not going to change my opinion on the character of your pilot group. You can make any excuse you deem necessary to help you sleep at night, but the fact of the matter is you guys are weak and literally screwed over any forward momentum the regional industry had going forward. For that, I can only hope that your careers don't go any further then brown streak.
Sorry, you're not going to change my opinion on the character of your pilot group. You can make any excuse you deem necessary to help you sleep at night, but the fact of the matter is you guys are weak and literally screwed over any forward momentum the regional industry had going forward. For that, I can only hope that your careers don't go any further then brown streak.
07-14-2015, 09:40 PM
#268
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Originally Posted by SkyguyT88
This has been an entertaining evening of reading.
I'm at PSA. I'm new. Waiting-to-start-IOE new.
We don't have a flow; thus, we don't have a 20 year flow.
If we had a flow, the 20 year number is cute. It basically assumes all pilots here would patiently wait in line for their turn @ the 4/month rate. Plenty of pilots here are going elsewhere: United, Atlas, NetJets, LCC's, etc.
I didn't choose PSA because they have a SSP with AA. I don't know if I'll ever fly for AA; not necessarily a goal. I looked at Eaglevoy among others. Mostly I saw nothing but FO's sitting on reserve for years. I believe that's still the case; would anyone at Envoy deny that? I mean what is actually happening right now, not what is projected. PSA fit several criteria, and so far it seems like a good operation. Every job has plusses and minuses. From what I see, reserve time is among the industry lowest here.
I'm guessing some will see my recent entry to this forum and junior status to a regional airline and assume I'm a fresh-from-school whipper snapper. You'd be wrong. Spent 14 years in general aviation. Was downsized from that; life happens. Only did instruction part time as a side job for a couple of the early years; never did that to eat. My main job during the instruction years was wrenching. I'm certificated to do that. Also spent about 4 years in 135. Got tired of living on-call; decided to try scheduled operations awhile.
From the outside looking in, with plenty of life experience, PSA looks like the right opportunity for me. There is a wild amount of sophomoric bitterness directed toward PSA on this forum from people claiming to be professionals. I don't know if those can conceive how sad those folks look to one new to the airline world, but not new to life as a working adult in aviation. Given the choice to join a shrinking airline and sit reserve for likely years or to join a growing airline and, not only avoid a long stint on reserve, but probably be upgrading in the time it took to get off reserve at another regional, the answer is not hard.
I'm at PSA. I'm new. Waiting-to-start-IOE new.
We don't have a flow; thus, we don't have a 20 year flow.
If we had a flow, the 20 year number is cute. It basically assumes all pilots here would patiently wait in line for their turn @ the 4/month rate. Plenty of pilots here are going elsewhere: United, Atlas, NetJets, LCC's, etc.
I didn't choose PSA because they have a SSP with AA. I don't know if I'll ever fly for AA; not necessarily a goal. I looked at Eaglevoy among others. Mostly I saw nothing but FO's sitting on reserve for years. I believe that's still the case; would anyone at Envoy deny that? I mean what is actually happening right now, not what is projected. PSA fit several criteria, and so far it seems like a good operation. Every job has plusses and minuses. From what I see, reserve time is among the industry lowest here.
I'm guessing some will see my recent entry to this forum and junior status to a regional airline and assume I'm a fresh-from-school whipper snapper. You'd be wrong. Spent 14 years in general aviation. Was downsized from that; life happens. Only did instruction part time as a side job for a couple of the early years; never did that to eat. My main job during the instruction years was wrenching. I'm certificated to do that. Also spent about 4 years in 135. Got tired of living on-call; decided to try scheduled operations awhile.
From the outside looking in, with plenty of life experience, PSA looks like the right opportunity for me. There is a wild amount of sophomoric bitterness directed toward PSA on this forum from people claiming to be professionals. I don't know if those can conceive how sad those folks look to one new to the airline world, but not new to life as a working adult in aviation. Given the choice to join a shrinking airline and sit reserve for likely years or to join a growing airline and, not only avoid a long stint on reserve, but probably be upgrading in the time it took to get off reserve at another regional, the answer is not hard.
07-15-2015, 04:23 AM
#269
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Position: CRJ FO
Posts: 4,599
Originally Posted by spaaks
The reason the regional industry is a perpetual crap sandwich is because of people like you, the "me, me, me" kind of people that only think about themselves. Regardless if you were at PSA before they sold out the industry or not, by going there now you are supporting what they did. Same goes for blowjet. Whether you like it or not, you are walking over the backs of the people that tried to stand up for the entire industry and gaining from their sacrifice at their expense. The regional industry was on the brink of a major turn around because the pilots finally had the power, and y'all along with pinnacle screwed everyone and continued the race to the bottom
07-15-2015, 04:31 AM
#270
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Posts: 1,809
Originally Posted by spaaks
The reason the regional industry is a perpetual crap sandwich is because of people like you, the "me, me, me" kind of people that only think about themselves. Regardless if you were at PSA before they sold out the industry or not, by going there now you are supporting what they did. Same goes for blowjet. Whether you like it or not, you are walking over the backs of the people that tried to stand up for the entire industry and gaining from their sacrifice at their expense. The regional industry was on the brink of a major turn around because the pilots finally had the power, and y'all along with pinnacle screwed everyone and continued the race to the bottom
Now, if a new hire goes to Eagle instead of PSA or Pinnacle is that also "supporting what they did?" If no, please explain why it is different.
Next, since we "walked over your backs" please tell me how many times PSA voted against taking concessions for acft prior to voting yes in 2013?
Lastly, If Pinnacle was first and PSA was second, everyone after them is free to vote in 12/4 without ridicule? Why is the 3rd carrier ok but the 2nd is not?
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