View Poll Results: WILL THE PSA FLOW LOA PASS?
YES
87
65.91%
NO
45
34.09%
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Will the psa flow loa pass?
#41
We have uogrades anywhere from 2 months to a year. Then when you get a captain slot you aren't going to get displaced. So you have to suck it up for a year maybe? More flows = more seniority = more upgrades = more pay = more pic hours = less time at a regional.
There is no such thing as a free lunch. The company needs IOE clarification and we need more flow numbers. It's a win win. I't might suck getting displaced here and there. But it does help the student/company/IOE instructor out a lot. Plus if you get displaced you gave the option of doing nothing. Stay at home.
There is no such thing as a free lunch. The company needs IOE clarification and we need more flow numbers. It's a win win. I't might suck getting displaced here and there. But it does help the student/company/IOE instructor out a lot. Plus if you get displaced you gave the option of doing nothing. Stay at home.
#42
Envoy is no better then PSA or PDT and the faster you come to grips with that the lower your blood pressure will become.
"He who angers you controls you."
#43
Sure suck it up for a year until the fast upgrades are over, oh wait. Suck it up until the next economic crisis.....the next war......the next accident......the next terrorist attack...... Then continue to screw everyone after you. Great idea. Or you could be a professional and fix an obvious p iss poor TA before its put in place for 10 years.
#44
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2012
Posts: 237
It doesn't. It says the LCA will get an IOE student assigned and their schedule locked. Guess what happens to the line holding FO that had that trip? They get displaced into LCR. I got the call and schedule adjustment on the 7th for my trip on the 13th.
The problem is there's no clear language to guide the company. There isn't any in the current contract either. Some how right now they can displace you at any time up until 1200 hours prior, no max limit. The LOA doesn't fix that either. The current contract allows the company to violate the trip trade language, trades up to 48 hours, with the displacement language, any time up to 12 hours prior. Once you're displaced into additional flying or(read and) LCR, you are locked from trading due to being a "reserve" pilot.
Did I explain that clearly enough? Not trying to be an ass, the interwebs sucks in clear communications sometimes.
The problem is there's no clear language to guide the company. There isn't any in the current contract either. Some how right now they can displace you at any time up until 1200 hours prior, no max limit. The LOA doesn't fix that either. The current contract allows the company to violate the trip trade language, trades up to 48 hours, with the displacement language, any time up to 12 hours prior. Once you're displaced into additional flying or(read and) LCR, you are locked from trading due to being a "reserve" pilot.
Did I explain that clearly enough? Not trying to be an ass, the interwebs sucks in clear communications sometimes.
#46
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2012
Posts: 237
You can't be that clueless are you? Those planes were planned to be moved way before a PSA vote. ERJ's were planned to be moved to PDT long ago. Parker made it obvious that he wanted 3 WO'ed carriers at or about the same size. Eagle tried to put on their big boy pants and Parker reached up and pulled them down and spanked hard. Nobody is better then the other.
Envoy is no better then PSA or PDT and the faster you come to grips with that the lower your blood pressure will become.
"He who angers you controls you."
Envoy is no better then PSA or PDT and the faster you come to grips with that the lower your blood pressure will become.
"He who angers you controls you."
#48
Apparently now the NC is seeking clarification on the displacement language from the company... AFTER THE TA HAS BEEN SENT FOR A VOTE. What a clown show this place is. I mean seriously, how was that not something you addressed when you were negotiating to begin with? And it's not like it was a recent revelation. Pilots were pointing out the grey language a week or two ago. Unbelievable.
#50
Apparently now the NC is seeking clarification on the displacement language from the company... AFTER THE TA HAS BEEN SENT FOR A VOTE. What a clown show this place is. I mean seriously, how was that not something you addressed when you were negotiating to begin with? And it's not like it was a recent revelation. Pilots were pointing out the grey language a week or two ago. Unbelievable.
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