Maintaining current minimum FO qualifications
05-24-2017, 01:06 PM
#22
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The irony is that some of us would happily teach and were doing that until the pay scales all flip flopped and dare I even say, better QOL at an airline than most flight schools...
I get that not everyone wants to instruct though and yes, the low time jobs are disappearing but if you want something bad enough you'll challenge yourself. It's not rocket science teaching the beginning stages of any skill, so to whine about having to instruct for a couple years probably means you should pick another field. My .02 anyway.
I get that not everyone wants to instruct though and yes, the low time jobs are disappearing but if you want something bad enough you'll challenge yourself. It's not rocket science teaching the beginning stages of any skill, so to whine about having to instruct for a couple years probably means you should pick another field. My .02 anyway.
05-24-2017, 01:47 PM
#24
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Originally Posted by mx911tom
Confucius also said, " Man who walk through airport turnstile sideways going to Bangkok." But im not basing my flying experience or quality on a quote lol
05-24-2017, 01:48 PM
#25
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Originally Posted by mx911tom
Confucius also said, " Man who walk through airport turnstile sideways going to Bangkok." But im not basing my flying experience or quality on a quote lol
05-24-2017, 08:16 PM
#26
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Originally Posted by Groundpointfife
What a pity you actually have to work and pay your dues to achieve your dream. How terrible that you might have to go CFI.
Having CFI'ed to get into the airlines, it's not the "FU, I got mine." Trust me, I have watched the industry changing and was flight instructing PART TIME in 2008 when there were NO jobs, and places were furloughing. When the legislation came out suggesting that you would need to meet ATP minimums to work for an airline it seemed dismal, how could you get all of the cross-country time required etc. Since then I have had a change of perspective, and honestly you become a much better pilot by teaching. You will also appreciate your next job more knowing how hard you worked to get there.
"Those that know do. Those that understand teach." -Aristotle
Actually UND, ERAU, WMU etc go into the algorithm, so there is a point value to it. How many points is it idk but it might be the difference between two otherwise equally qualified (flight time, volunteer work etc) candidates. I see where you are coming from, a name on a piece of paper does not necessarily mean the person learned as much as a graduate of a non-aviation school who worked hard (and spent a fraction of the money).
Having CFI'ed to get into the airlines, it's not the "FU, I got mine." Trust me, I have watched the industry changing and was flight instructing PART TIME in 2008 when there were NO jobs, and places were furloughing. When the legislation came out suggesting that you would need to meet ATP minimums to work for an airline it seemed dismal, how could you get all of the cross-country time required etc. Since then I have had a change of perspective, and honestly you become a much better pilot by teaching. You will also appreciate your next job more knowing how hard you worked to get there.
"Those that know do. Those that understand teach." -Aristotle
Actually UND, ERAU, WMU etc go into the algorithm, so there is a point value to it. How many points is it idk but it might be the difference between two otherwise equally qualified (flight time, volunteer work etc) candidates. I see where you are coming from, a name on a piece of paper does not necessarily mean the person learned as much as a graduate of a non-aviation school who worked hard (and spent a fraction of the money).
The 1500 hour rule is a manufactured shortage. Many on this board and myself included never touched the CFI.
"Hey we know you can drive a truck, why don't you go teach everyone else how to drive a truck for a few years so you can create a ponzi scheme to protect our lifestyle we 'earned'."
05-24-2017, 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Varsity
The 1500 hour rule is a manufactured shortage. Many on this board and myself included never touched the CFI.
"Hey we know you can drive a truck, why don't you go teach everyone else how to drive a truck for a few years so you can create a ponzi scheme to protect our lifestyle we 'earned'."
"Hey we know you can drive a truck, why don't you go teach everyone else how to drive a truck for a few years so you can create a ponzi scheme to protect our lifestyle we 'earned'."
Last edited by Air Stang 7; 05-24-2017 at 09:45 PM. Reason: Grammar.
05-24-2017, 10:30 PM
#29
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Originally Posted by veewan
Even if the 1500 hours do nothing to improve safety I'm pretty surprised how many people are against keeping it. I guess $16-22/hour first year is what people want to see come back.
6 of one, half a dozen of another.
05-24-2017, 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by adebord
The $16-$22 first year pay still exists. Its the 1,250 hours you CFI at a flight school.
6 of one, half a dozen of another.
6 of one, half a dozen of another.
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