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Old 03-08-2007 | 01:08 PM
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For the mesa guys, would like to know where I could find a copy of your contract. Any info is appreciated.
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Old 03-08-2007 | 01:19 PM
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For the mesa guys, would like to know where I could find a copy of your contract. Any info is appreciated.
Chances are it will read like a romance novel- you'll be crying a few chapters in.
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Old 03-08-2007 | 03:12 PM
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Yeah I might. Just want to know how bad it really is.
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Old 03-08-2007 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by EEked Out
For the mesa guys, would like to know where I could find a copy of your contract. Any info is appreciated.
After you take a Ornstein instead of just flushing it right away, look at it. Thats the Mesa contract.
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Old 03-08-2007 | 07:09 PM
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Here it is...in all its glory!

Notice all the times "at company discretion" and "to the extent possible" are used.

Also, the seniority list at the end notes the original Freedom "A"-listers (with "FDM" next to their name)
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Old 03-08-2007 | 07:42 PM
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It is going to get interesting when Mesa's contract negotiations get SERIOUS! Lots of people sound ****ed. I wonder if pilots will settle for anything less than a top notch contract. I wonder how many Mesa pilots are truly ready to "burn it down!" Will there be a strike? Scabs? What does JO have up his sleeve? Will Mesa management agree to a top notch contract?

It's gonna be interesting.
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Old 03-08-2007 | 08:02 PM
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Nobody can strike anymore it seems with this work stoppage blocking by BK judges...
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Old 03-08-2007 | 08:09 PM
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We might not be able to strike but I can dang sure cause daily problems with EXTREMELY small write ups at the most inconvienent times. Sick calls placed on just the right days. If you add up the small things with the fact that MOST of the pilot group supports doing. We can cause a number of intentional delays and hit JO where it hurts. Is this hurting the company as well, sure but doesn't a strike do the same. If it costs us a code share or two then so be it. Sometimes you have to destroy something so that new growth may form.
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Old 03-08-2007 | 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by DMEarc
Nobody can strike anymore it seems with this work stoppage blocking by BK judges...
Key word in that sentence is "Bankruptcy". Mesa ain't bankrupt, so strike away (it's still difficult but you wouldn't have to jump that hurdle). Although JO may be the first CEO in history to put his company into BK to prevent a strike...
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Old 03-08-2007 | 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by XtremeF150
We might not be able to strike but I can dang sure cause daily problems with EXTREMELY small write ups at the most inconvienent times. Sick calls placed on just the right days. If you add up the small things with the fact that MOST of the pilot group supports doing. We can cause a number of intentional delays and hit JO where it hurts. Is this hurting the company as well, sure but doesn't a strike do the same. If it costs us a code share or two then so be it. Sometimes you have to destroy something so that new growth may form.
You mean writing things up because they are not mechanically sound...or calling in sick because you do not meet the terms of your medical. Anything else could be construed as "illegal work action." You're just talking about doing your job very very very well.
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