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Old 03-20-2007 | 10:44 PM
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I almost fell off my chair when I read the orginal post.

Let me share a story with you. You remind me of this dude that was in my new hire class back in 1989. This cry baby weezled hismelf into the SAAB when the rest of us suckers got sent to the SA227. This little baby cried every day through IOE and then for the next three years. He finally left our airline and went to another. The little A$$ ended up killing himself, his co-pilot and about 12 other pax in the middle of the night because he thought he lost an engine when in fact it was running fine.

Bottom line cry baby.......get another profession. Sorry to be so harsh, but this career will eat you ALIVE!
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Old 03-21-2007 | 04:42 AM
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Originally Posted by A330Checkairman
I almost fell off my chair when I read the orginal post.

Let me share a story with you. You remind me of this dude that was in my new hire class back in 1989. This cry baby weezled hismelf into the SAAB when the rest of us suckers got sent to the SA227. This little baby cried every day through IOE and then for the next three years. He finally left our airline and went to another. The little A$$ ended up killing himself, his co-pilot and about 12 other pax in the middle of the night because he thought he lost an engine when in fact it was running fine.

Bottom line cry baby.......get another profession. Sorry to be so harsh, but this career will eat you ALIVE!

So I guess anyone looking for advice should just keep it to themselves or get blasted? The guy is new and has some concerns. Should that open him up to name calling by some internet tough guy? Get a life.
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Old 03-21-2007 | 05:31 AM
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WOW, were you really that irrelevant? You really are a bitter, sad, pathetic old man! My dad flew international my ENTIRE LIFE and yes I cried when he left (as a child), but that's life. This I figured out over time and I came to realize it was necessary. I would count the days until he came home and I knew that once he returned he would spend all his time with us. Which he did; golfing, fishing, tennis, football, sporting events, school events, and vacations all without the stress of the office. When he was home we were all that mattered to him. It's not about the job or how often you're gone; it's about who you are, what you mean to your family and what you do with the time you have!

SAD!!!!!!!! Of course I really don't have to point this out; it's obvious in your ramblings.
This is the exact attitude that I hear from everyone who is succesfull in this career AND in their family life. I have spoken with numerous Delta captains here in SLC and their families who had the same attitude as your father and all were succesfull at the job and at home. The ones who had a crappy home life, went to work and then came home and only cared about themselves and what THEY wanted to do. Jet Jock keep the attitude your father had and I truly believe you will be a success at work and at home. I look up to you and your fathers attitude toward work and family life and hope to pattern myself after it. Good Luck! Keep the great attitude!
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Old 03-21-2007 | 05:54 AM
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20 years ago contracts were much better. Pilots were still gone but not nearly as much. Today most can expect to be away around 50% of the time, more if you commute. Some are gone a bit more that 50%.

It is unhealthy for any family to have one of the parents be gone for so much. My father was home all the time but no one would say that there isn't something of significance being lost by being gone all the time.

9 to 5 people have the added benefit of being in sync with the rest of the world. When they are at work everyone else is either at work or school too. When home most everyone else is at home. It permits a full and active family and social life. It is true that pilots can get large blocks of days off but spend them walking the halls of empty shopping malls alone while everyone else is at work. The results are that even though they are home they are alone.

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Old 03-21-2007 | 06:08 AM
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20 years ago contracts were much better. Pilots were still gone but not nearly as much. Today most can expect to be away around 50% of the time, more if you commute. Some are gone a bit more that 50%.

It is unhealthy for any family to have one of the parents be gone for so much. My father was home all the time but no one would say that there isn't something of significance being lost by being gone all the time.

9 to 5 people have the added benefit of being in sync with the rest of the world. When they are at work everyone else is either at work or school too. When home most everyone else is at home. It permits a full and active family and social life. It is true that pilots can get large blocks of days off but spend them walking the halls of empty shopping malls alone while everyone else is at work. The results are that even though they are home they are alone.

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So go to the shopping mall at 5 when everyone get's off work. You might need to go to the shopping mall 1 maybe 2 times a week? Unless there is this crazy fetish that some have of walking the shopping malls alone in the middle of the day. I don't understand what this has to do with anything.
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Old 03-21-2007 | 06:12 AM
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Going to the mall at 10am on a weekday is the best time to go. Nobody there.
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Old 03-21-2007 | 06:13 AM
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So go to the shopping mall at 5 when everyone get's off work. You might need to go to the shopping mall 1 maybe 2 times a week? Unless there is this crazy fetish that some have of walking the shopping malls alone in the middle of the day. I don't understand what this has to do with anything.
It means that even when home pilots miss out on life because during their time off friends and family are at work or school. On the weekend when everyone is putting together softball games and camping trips the pilot is gone.

Some say they have lots of time at home which may be true but to what value?

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Old 03-21-2007 | 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by SkyHigh
9 to 5 people have the added benefit of being in sync with the rest of the world. When they are at work everyone else is either at work or school too. When home most everyone else is at home. It permits a full and active family and social life. It is true that pilots can get large blocks of days off but spend them walking the halls of empty shopping malls alone while everyone else is at work. The results are that even though they are home they are alone.

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Oh by the way, my police officer, firefighter, EMS, and other graveyard friends see there friends and family soooooo much. Give me a break, they all sleep all day and work all night. I never see those guys anymore and i know from talking to them that they hate their job's. You act like being a pilot is the only profession that takes people away from there families. My friends kids never see him awake, and my "9 to 5" friend is always traveling somewhere for work.
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Old 03-21-2007 | 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by SkyHigh
It means that even when home pilots miss out on life because during their time off friends and family are at work or school. On the weekend when everyone is putting together softball games and camping trips the pilot is gone.

Some say they have lots of time at home which may be true but to what value?

SkyHigh

Your time is what you make of it. SkyHigh I am not going to insult you, that is not my intent. I am sorry you could not figure out how to use your time to your benefeit. But I know plenty who have that didn't have "aviation royalty" in their families. I choose to follow their examples of positive attitude and good use of time to be succesful. Can you blame people for not wanting to listen to someone who is always complaining and never has anything positive to say?
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Old 03-21-2007 | 06:25 AM
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Its difficult to compare flying to other jobs. I don't know of another lifestyle that is so demanding - but the rewards seem to be a good view and amazing people / brotherhood on the line...


I don't mind Skyhigh or anyone else's posts but we all have to do what makes up happy. Don't let others control your future / feelings...Take control of your life and enjoy the days you have on earth...

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