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Old 03-26-2006 | 06:39 PM
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"type ratings for leers"

It's Lear as in Learjet. Do you really want to be a pilot when you grow up? I mean, I knew what a Learjet was when I was 12.

"Plus the six pack doesnt directly transfer to the glass cockpit"

Who told you that? I used to fly a 727. It had what you would consider a six pack. That airplane made a jet pilot out of me. Now, what you are trying to say is, automation has made real stick and rudder skills obsolete. To an extent, you are correct, and that's why CAE can get a 400 hour guy through an RJ type rating course. At the same time, stick and rudder skills would be nice to have when the crap hits the fan or your autopilot is MEL'ed. Trust me on that, I've been there and you haven't. And that's why we are having this discussion in the first place...
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Old 03-28-2006 | 09:52 AM
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Well...I just thought it was funny. I'm a UPS 757/767 F/O going to Capts school in a couple of weeks. If the guy wants to try to convince me that RAA students could possibly deserve/earn a jet type rating at 500 hours, then I'm happy to engage in an intelligent conversation with him. Until then, it's a waste of time. Not waist....
You make fun of me because I had a little typo...Your just a bitter guy who had bad experiences. It's ok we know bullies like to pick on the little guy. Just a lil jealous we have it easier than you did getting into this business?
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Old 03-28-2006 | 09:55 AM
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Which scabs are these? I didn't know there were any scab operations in this US at this time?
Gojets http://www.gojetpilots.com/
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Old 03-29-2006 | 10:22 AM
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Just another unappealing reason to go to RJs. That makes me sick.
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Old 03-29-2006 | 11:32 AM
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Hopefully it never gets off the ground. Hang tight TSA
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Old 03-29-2006 | 01:55 PM
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They are hirring like crazy at gojets right now. Its not so much of if it will die but how TSA can squash it like YOu guys at MESA were able to squash freedom.
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Old 03-29-2006 | 07:37 PM
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"Your just a bitter guy who had bad experiences"

And.....what were those bad experiences, I gotta ask?

"It's ok we know bullies like to pick on the little guy"

So you're a little guy? How did you end up being a little guy? I'm simply telling you guys what I think based on my years of experience in the biz. And that makes me a bully? LMAO!!!

Plus, you guys look like dorks cause you can't spell and don't care enough about it to check your work before you post.

Aviation has a way of being completely unforgiving of those who don't pay attention to detail.

There's a tip for you from the local jealous bully...
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Old 03-29-2006 | 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Hopefully it never gets off the ground. Hang tight TSA
They're flying now. See them at STL all the time
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Old 03-30-2006 | 11:39 AM
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Wow, where the $^*# have I been. I should have posted on this thread a long time ago. I went to RAA, I got the Type, I got the job with 550-100. And I never had a single dificult test/exam/checkride after the training I got at Regional. Shortcut? Hell yeah it was. And it cost me too. But to each his own, thats the kind of pilot I opted to become. You can't make sweeping judgements of a pilot group because of the training they had, everyone is different. Punkpilot48 went to regional, in fact he is probably my best friend in the world right now, but he didn't do the type. He went thattaway, I went thissaway. Why does that make him a better, more respectable pilot? (no offense bro) These threads are difficult bc you have students, instructors, FOs, Captains, ERJ pilots, 777 pilots all arguing about one thing, and nobody has the same point of view, or the same opinion. There will never be a common ground, and thats all there is to it. From now till the invention of teleporters, pilots will be shunning those who had different training from themselves. Its really too bad seeing as how this really is a small industry, and we all hate each other. This de727ups guy really has it out for anyone who paid to shorten their training time. I made and investment in myself. I figure that the type rating got me an interview a year sooner. If that means I can earn pay as a captain later in life for an extra year, then how much does that get me? If I make 100K a year for an extra year, and paid 20K for a type, then I guess I'm 80K ahead. The type is not for everyone, but if you can swing it, you can get yourself a job much faster. I hope everyone has fun tearing my post up calling me a new hire POS, drinking the kool aid and all that crap. Quit b!tching about everything ad just do your f!ing job. In a world with "hundreds of pilots trying to get a job" how are you supposed to stick out and get hired? In my class at ExpressJet there were 16 new hires. 14 of us were grads of these "sh!tty PFT schools" and guess what *********s, we all passed. How about those two guys that were CFIs for three years? The f-ing failed! They cost the company thousands of extra dollars bc of the contract that guaranteed them extra training if they failed a checkride. The checkairmen were relieved when they asked if we had been through a "regional primer course" at a big flight school. It doesnt take long in this industry to realize that you are fed a load of bu!!****. Weed through it and find the training that suits you best. Regional tells you a lot of lies, but they still have good training, just dont expect to stick with the timeline.
For those of you who think that their current program is too short, get this. They recently recieved a 142 school rating allowing them to train a pilot from zero to commercial multi instrument with less than 100 hours in an aircraft, in about three months, then back to the good ol' 141 program for the CFI, andother three months, and then three months for the airline transition course. Yep, get used to it, 9 month FOs!!!

Oh, based on personal experience, when I was sitting in the left seat of that CRJ sim, with three FAA examiners (my FO/instructor, my examiner, and his examiner) I felt pretty damn good when they told me I just passed a Captain ride with 380 hours. They also laughed with me about the fact that it could be years before I could use my type rating as a captain.

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Old 03-30-2006 | 12:49 PM
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"This de727ups guy really has it out for anyone who paid to shorten their training time"

I just don't think guys with 380 hours have the experience to be in the right seat of an RJ. My opinion's based on past experience flying 727's and 757's for a major airline. That you paid for your "captain ride" at 380 hours and think that makes you hot stuff makes me laugh, too.

You make it sound like money is everything and have bought into the marketing slogans about getting on the list as fast as you can. Well, if everything goes perfect your whole career then it might be true. What they don't tell you is there are a lot of things that can shoot you down along the way. It's really a crapshoot. Luck plays a lot bigger role in the final paycheck than getting hired at your first regional six months quicker.
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