Hiring Mins 40 years ago!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
03-30-2007, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by de727ups
I changed the title of the thread to reflect the OP's attempt to make part of his point more accurate. His thread title of 20 years ago is incorrect as I was personally there to witness it. Saab realised his mistake but didn't fix it.
By the way, Saab. In the future when you make a mistake in the title of a thread, you can go back and change it on your own.
By the way, Saab. In the future when you make a mistake in the title of a thread, you can go back and change it on your own.
03-30-2007, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
That was back in the early 1960's when the payscales were lower, and the the vietnam-era military pilots weren't available.
Back then if you didn't have the dough for college or flight training, most people took their old man's job at the mill/factory/mine. There weren't many alternative means of funding your dreams, so people just faced the reality.
Also, as was mentioned you started as an FE, and stayed an FE for years. FE's never got spectacular pay.
Back then if you didn't have the dough for college or flight training, most people took their old man's job at the mill/factory/mine. There weren't many alternative means of funding your dreams, so people just faced the reality.
Also, as was mentioned you started as an FE, and stayed an FE for years. FE's never got spectacular pay.
Examples: I had a student at the FBO I worked at at HPN. He had a class date with UAL. He had zero time. He was part of a special program for people that had a 4 year degree. UAL interviewed, tested, and gave class dates to individuals. They were required to go out and pay for their FAA Commercial and I recall they would get their Instrument at a FBO in Denver just before they started their new hire class. TWA had similar program but required a Private.
Another person I knew was hired by TWA in Feb 64, 500 hrs. TT ASEL, Age 20. Hired as a relief pilot on the B707, told he would probaly have to go to FE because TWA was in the process of putting the PFEs in the pilot seat. Age 24 he was a B727 Captain, age 25 he was a B707 Captain.
I was not that uncommon for a guy with 500 hours to have an offer at two majors at the same time.
03-30-2007, 01:50 PM
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Yeah I talked to this one guy, 25 yr old CA on the 747 for TWA
Talk about living the life.............. Hes divorced twice and pretty much broke now, but still................I bet he enjoyed it while it lasted
Talk about living the life.............. Hes divorced twice and pretty much broke now, but still................I bet he enjoyed it while it lasted
03-30-2007, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by iflysky
By the way in Europe they have been hiring people with 500 hrs on the 737 and 320 for generations
I was hired in Switzerland with 260 hours total time. Standard Operating Procedure in Europe where the flight schools train pilots to become airine pilots from day 1.
Planes are operating safely there. Total time is meaningless. Quality of selection/screening process and quality of training is very meaningful.
Don't misunderstand. Experience is priceless. But there is no reason an airline F/O cannot be hired and trained to be safe and proficient with just a few hundred hours.
03-30-2007, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by iflysky
By the way in Europe they have been hiring people with 500 hrs on the 737 and 320 for generations
yeah..and not one person on this board could pass their written tests..no GLEAM over there..no questions and answers before the test...why do you think they give us the answers...makes u think
03-30-2007, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by CaptainMark
yeah..and not one person on this board could pass their written tests..no GLEAM over there..no questions and answers before the test...why do you think they give us the answers...makes u think
BTW, you have my dream job.
03-30-2007, 05:14 PM
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although i do think they have study books now...
"Approximately 15,000 questions representing the totality of the JAA ATPL CQB and covering all 14 JAA ATPL theory tests."
man..15000 questions..that's a lot of memorization...thank goodness for martha king!
"Approximately 15,000 questions representing the totality of the JAA ATPL CQB and covering all 14 JAA ATPL theory tests."
man..15000 questions..that's a lot of memorization...thank goodness for martha king!
03-30-2007, 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by CaptainMark
although i do think they have study books now...
"Approximately 15,000 questions representing the totality of the JAA ATPL CQB and covering all 14 JAA ATPL theory tests."
man..15000 questions..that's a lot of memorization...thank goodness for martha king!
"Approximately 15,000 questions representing the totality of the JAA ATPL CQB and covering all 14 JAA ATPL theory tests."
man..15000 questions..that's a lot of memorization...thank goodness for martha king!
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