Considering Frontier?
#21
Sadly, some sucker will come on the forum telling his sad story about how F9 is his dream job. He or she will say how they love animals or some other nonsense. The pilot machine will keep churning.
Sad, we have not come together as a group and said, Enough with the BS.
Sad, we have not come together as a group and said, Enough with the BS.
#22
It gets better folks! All probationary pilots will have peer evaluations done and meet with Chief pilots at your halfway point during your probationary period. Not joking!! You’re going to have to get 3 peer Evals from captains you’ve flown with and hand carry them to the principals office to go over your performance during the first 6 months, and determine whether you need to come in after another 3 months. I don’t even think regionals have you fill out FO evals anymore. Think very carefully about if the move to frontier is worth it.
WTF (welcome to frontier)
http://www.frontierbadbargain.com
Frontier Pilot Facts
100% READY TO STRIKE!!!
WTF (welcome to frontier)
http://www.frontierbadbargain.com
Frontier Pilot Facts
100% READY TO STRIKE!!!
#23
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2017
Posts: 3,649
It gets better folks! All probationary pilots will have peer evaluations done and meet with Chief pilots at your halfway point during your probationary period. Not joking!! You’re going to have to get 3 peer Evals from captains you’ve flown with and hand carry them to the principals office to go over your performance during the first 6 months, and determine whether you need to come in after another 3 months. I don’t even think regionals have you fill out FO evals anymore. Think very carefully about if the move to frontier is worth it.
WTF (welcome to frontier)
http://www.frontierbadbargain.com
Frontier Pilot Facts
100% READY TO STRIKE!!!
WTF (welcome to frontier)
http://www.frontierbadbargain.com
Frontier Pilot Facts
100% READY TO STRIKE!!!
#24
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2011
Position: 737 FO
Posts: 2,480
It gets better folks! All probationary pilots will have peer evaluations done and meet with Chief pilots at your halfway point during your probationary period. Not joking!! You’re going to have to get 3 peer Evals from captains you’ve flown with and hand carry them to the principals office to go over your performance during the first 6 months, and determine whether you need to come in after another 3 months. I don’t even think regionals have you fill out FO evals anymore. Think very carefully about if the move to frontier is worth it.
WTF (welcome to frontier)
http://www.frontierbadbargain.com
Frontier Pilot Facts
100% READY TO STRIKE!!!
WTF (welcome to frontier)
http://www.frontierbadbargain.com
Frontier Pilot Facts
100% READY TO STRIKE!!!
#26
#27
On Reserve
Joined APC: Jun 2018
Posts: 24
If the company cancelling over 100 pilot vacations in AUG, or getting fired for calling in sick on probation still doesn’t phase you and you still want to blow money on a hotel for the interview, just because they called. The airline is owned by investors. They don’t give a rat’s a$$ about employees, passengers, or on time performance. Heck, they don’t give a crap about the airline, except for the the fact that it’s a cash machine for them. They make millions on every aircraft delivery. They sell them to a leasing company and lease them back. They don’t own anything. They’ve sold off as many gates as they could get away with without completely destroying the airline. They have barely any assets. They have a certificate, gates at various airports, HQ people, flight attendants and Pilots. It is basically an Airbus leaseback company that happens to have scheduled service. I’m not sure how long Frontier is even going to be around. Don’t waste your time. Whatever they’re promising they are lying. Upgrades are well over three years and climbing. And you’ll be on reserve for well over a year. You might hear stories of a guy getting off reserve in 6 mos but it sure as heck won’t be you. If you’re after an Airbus type raring, it would be cheaper and much better quality of life if you just bought your own type. If you were hitting on someone at a bar and they were an awful person with anal warts, herpes and would mug you and leave you for dead if you took them back to your room with you, wouldn’t you want someone who knew that to tell you so you could go talk to someone else. Well let me just say there is a reason Frontier calls first. But if you still want to get into bed with them, it’s your call.
Frontier Pilot Facts
http://www.frontierbadbargain.com
100% READY TO STRIKE!!!!
Frontier Pilot Facts
http://www.frontierbadbargain.com
100% READY TO STRIKE!!!!
@OP, thanks for posting this information and letting us all know. We all ought to watch out for one another. So posting stuff like this helps us all make an informed decision.
#28
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2015
Posts: 327
I interviewed at F9 mainly for the interview experience after a long, hard inner debate with myself about whether I should no-show or not. It cost me about $600 to prepare myself for it. All in all, I did not lose much in terms of personal resources because the suit and briefcase and electronic logbook that I bought will be utilized to be hired by companies which have much more to offer me in the long run. I did waste $250 on a hotel, transportation, and food, though. When they told me by the end of the interview that they would not hire me and they wanted to see me again in 6 months, not going to lie I was more than pleased! No one should be going to Frontier in this environment unless they are absolutely committed to living within spitting distance of its bases.
@OP, thanks for posting this information and letting us all know. We all ought to watch out for one another. So posting stuff like this helps us all make an informed decision.
@OP, thanks for posting this information and letting us all know. We all ought to watch out for one another. So posting stuff like this helps us all make an informed decision.
#29
On Reserve
Joined APC: Jun 2018
Posts: 24
It's probably only their way of testing to see whether we are really interested in Frontier or not. Then again, maybe we just suck at interviewing. Like I said, I went in mainly for the interview experience. A seasoned interview team will be readily able to spot the signs of an indifferent candidate.
#30
WHY!? Endeavor is paying a LOT more to new hires in the CRJ200 (and they pay for single occupant hotel during training too) Nobody should be going to Frontier for that pay.
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